Atomic Systems

Hi

My fav steamy is the LNER A4 Mallard but have noticed that there is 3 versions on uktrainsim.

I downloaded all 3 zip files but when reading readme file it says that you can only have one copy of mallard as each folder will be called the same.

Is there a way round this so i could have the 3 different versions on msts.

(please say there is. lol)

Dave

sorry. i will rephrase. there are 5 different versions of mallard on uktrainsim.

One of those is my reskin of the BATS A4 model, available as part of the Fires & Wires pack in shops like Game etc.

The other 4 are all by Peter Harvey, the more recent two I think are the updated model.

regards

Dan

It's quite possible to have more than one version of any loco - though my personal preference would be to keep the best looking and performing one and use that exclusively

You need to rename the loco Folder (at the very least; to be safe, the .eng file and the Wagon name inside that too) so that the sim knows which one is which.

When it comes to installing them, unzip to a temporary folder, do the rename, then move the newly christened folder into Trainset.

I think Peter Harvey's use different file names but the same folder name so they should work ok

Sorry its the Flying Scotsman for me, great MSTS models and real thing absolutely love it. (I own part of it )

Cheers Richard

Ricardo wrote:Sorry its the Flying Scotsman for me, great MSTS models and real thing absolutely love it. (I own part of it )

Cheers Richard

Was that in its PLC days or now its in the national collection?

I prefer Mallard myself

I think there's room for both in any collection. Both have their place in British and world railway history.

A4s significance is obvious, but what is so significant about Flying Scotsman? (or rather the A3 class - FS is significant because it's unique). is it that it's a rebuild of Gresley's A1 class? (the first pacific produced in large numbers)

From what I can tell, the A3 is just another top link express engine. That's not meant to slag it off, but just to say that it's no more/less significant to british railways history than a stanier pacific or a castle class.

I await the flames and hopefully someone will explain to me why it's so important!

As far as I know, Flying Scotsman was the first train to officially do the ton (100 mph+). I think that's why it's famous.

Of course, we all know that City Of Truro managed it a good while before, but the GWR board of directors in their wisdom decided not to admit it, being scared that passengers may be put off travelling on something so fast.

Fodda wrote:As far as I know, Flying Scotsman was the first train to officially do the ton (100 mph+). I think that's why it's famous.

Of course, we all know that City Of Truro managed it a good while before, but the GWR board of directors in their wisdom decided not to admit it, being scared that passengers may be put off travelling on something so fast.

Something that FGW carry on to this day

As with so many things, later inspection throws doubt on the City of Truro record; it seems that a couple of the timings don't quite match expectations - there's a discontinuity.

There is also a 'claimed' record in the US of a NYC loco reaching 102.5 on a constant down grade in the Hudson Valley - as the timings show it to have been doing something like 96, 96, 102.5, 96, 96, it's probable that 'somebody erred'...

Flying Scotsmean's 100 is documented and accepted to be a 'real' ton.

I'm not judging beyond that.

Even so, it seems that modern inspection of Mallard's dynamometer car records casts some doubt on the 126mph, too, though it is, apparently, accepted that it did reach 125 - and no other steamer ever got that fast, anyway.

Flying Scotsman is also special because it was used to launch the LNER's non-stop Kings-Cross-Waverly service. Two locomotives set off simulatneously (FS from KX and another whose name i forget from Edinburgh), but Flying Scotsman attracted the most attention from the London-based media, so it became famous. IMHO, I have to say the A3s were better than most contempory express locomotives. They were the best until the A4s came along, and better than many other companies' later designs. But in fact the A3s as a class aren't that famous - certainly not as celebrated as the A4s - it is only Flying Scotsman that is famous.

The train (the 10am KX - Waverley) was known as the 'Flying Scotsman' for many years before it was officially named, and that was several years before the A1 loco was built to haul it - I believe the name originated in the days of the Stirling singles.

Maybe that's one reason the name has stuck so well.