re alphaline wessex trains 158962 file id 1384

wreckhavoc · Post by **wreckhavoc** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:31 pm

have installed this train and consist alphaline wessex trains 158962 file id 1384 ,yet when ran route control. error came up that invg wag should be in wessex_158962,and rejected the consist ....has any one else having probs with this train or files as i tried renaming train but to no avail please help thanks ...author does have 2 read me files ,but they are not very helpful either ,cheers

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:59 am

Could you elaborate what 'Route Control' as ive not heard of that program before. Also what this means: "Error came up that invg wag should be in wessex_158962".

Im guessing this program has checked the integrity of the install and found an error in the folder naming of a .wag file which points to a location that doesnt exist. When you tried to rename to this folder that it was looking for, it crashed the whole train.

Mean while the consist that came with the train didnt work because of the above error.

Website · Post by **Easilyconfused** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:09 am

LucaZone wrote:Could you elaborate what 'Route Control' as ive not heard of that program before.

I've heard of it but never investigated too much due to the price and the fact that other tools exist to do similar sounding things.

http://www.howintheworld.com/routecontrol.shtml/

johndibben · Post by **johndibben** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:31 am

Easilyconfused wrote:
LucaZone wrote:Could you elaborate what 'Route Control' as ive not heard of that program before.
I've heard of it but never investigated too much due to the price and the fact that other tools exist to do similar sounding things.

Indeed.

Never heard of it either and forgotten it already

ntanswell · Post by **ntanswell** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:53 am

have installed this train and consist alphaline wessex trains 158962 file id 1384 ,yet when ran route control. error came up that invg wag should be in wessex_158962,and rejected the consist ....has any one else having probs with this train or files as i tried renaming train but to no avail please help thanks ...author does have 2 read me files ,but they are not very helpful either ,cheers

Sorry about this. This is my first upload and I am quite new to MSTS. I have fixed the problem you described and have re-uploaded the file with the fix in place. When the file has been re-approved, please re-download the file and re-install the unit into MSTS. I am sorry for the inconvience caused.

Regards

Ntanswell

Backfoot2002 · Post by **Backfoot2002** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:37 pm

LucaZone wrote:Could you elaborate what 'Route Control' as ive not heard of that program before. Also what this means: "Error came up that invg wag should be in wessex_158962".
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What he said was right. It is a .wag file, called invsi.wag that is missing. The consist is looking for it. It is simply and invisable wagon that allows more than two units of the Class 158 by Steve Weller to be connects. Due to the way he built the model, without it, the end doors collide and you get coaches running into one another.

wreckhavoc · Post by **wreckhavoc** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:38 pm

train station route control is from the site how in the world ,and what it does is check trainsets and consists ,to make sure they are right ,this is much simpler to use and it also checks your activities and services for errors ,it list all missing consists activies trains etc ,it is a brilliant program ,it can also set up a route for you as well as clean routes add routes and pack routes ,,give it a go

wreckhavoc · Post by **wreckhavoc** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:36 pm

consist is still wrong ,you need to sort out your train folder and eng files .look at your consist ,it is listing different train folders ,your consist must match the train folder name ,ie this is what route control finds
invw.wag should be in wessex158962
alternate found in alphaline _wessext_158962 this is actual train folder name as in your consist
look at your consist ,it is completely up the swanee

thenudehamster · Post by **thenudehamster** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:37 pm

If I can wend my way through the that, I think RouteBuilder may be finding an error that doesn't matter. The name of the consist is unrelated to its contents. The folder name doesn't need to relate to the filename of the stock, either.
The essential references are that the contents of the consist must properly reference the correct .eng and .wag files.

It can call xx.eng in folder ZZ if it likes, but if xx.eng is in folder YY, then it won't find it. In normal practice, invisiwag does not have to be in the same folder as the rest of the train, but the consist must properly reference the folder it is in.

ConBuilder or Route Riter are the most effective tools most of us have found for this. I tried the demo of RouteControl, and I wasn't impressed - it found lots of 'errors' that are not errors per se...

ntanswell · Post by **ntanswell** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:53 pm

I have uploaded again and hopefully it should work fine now. I have tested it on my MSTS and it works well with no errors.

Regards

Ntanswell

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:36 pm

It could be that the consist is using another invisiwag.

I made the wagon to carry a freight animation for an activity and since then it has been used for a whole lot of other things

I found a problem with a DVT and used an invisible wagon to space out the nose end.
I believe the same one was used for the 158.

Have a look in your trainset folder for a DVT and see if it contains the invisiwag. If you find it you need to replace the DVT with an updated version as the problem has been cured and the inviswag is no longer needed.

wreckhavoc · Post by **wreckhavoc** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:39 am

brill route control show no probs ,158 train is running well now
route control is now version 1.1.2 and only show errors if you have them.duplicate stock consists etc or if files are wrongly written /and as there are so many routes, trains, consists services and activities there are bound to be conflicts ,unless you are up to date with your train simulator set up ,dont forget routes can have a lot of activities ,and you may need additional stock ,but there are also lots of conflicting stock consists also ,but if you install routes one at a time after installing the main program,using this route control program ,you can check for problems easily ,i have over 50 routes on my set up and loads of stock and consists ,and have no problems in running msts to its full potential ,

dragonfiend · Post by **dragonfiend** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:54 pm

hello there ,there seems to be a problem with an about blank ace file with this train ,only it will not run ,any ideas please cheers. Hal

ntanswell · Post by **ntanswell** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:23 pm

Yes there is a problem with a missing blank.ace file. I have re-uploaded the unit and it is waiting to be approved. Please download the new version when it has been approved.

Ntanswell

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:25 pm

Well, that's lovely, because wreakhavoc is Dragonsfiend anyway, so is taking you for a ride here.