Class 37 Two Tone Horn Sounds Now Available

nelson · Post by **nelson** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:25 am

The Class 37 Two Tone Horns are now available for download on UKTS file ID 10737

These are seperately operated single tones which can be played in any sequence, using the space bar and B key, as in real life British trains.

Warning, if you have a bell or DMU buzzer assigned to your B key and do not wish to lose it then don't use these sounds. I am looking at ways to have both bell and other horn sounds available and would appreciate anyones help in this matter, i.e assigning the bell to another key, or the horn sound? Possibly the N key? ( Blower on Steam Trains)

More sounds to follow:
In the pipe line are: Class 60, Class 158, HST, Generic, and working on Class 170 horns.

Cheers
Nelson

thenudehamster · Post by **thenudehamster** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:53 pm

This is me in stupid mode, I know, but why would one need the Bell key on a British unit?
And where does a DMU buzzer come into it? The only ones I've ever seen were operated by the guard as a 'right away' signal - and that was actually a bell like a London bus.
Apart from a couple of specialised instances (like the Wisbech and Upwell Tramway where a bell was required by Ministry regulation) unless things have changed drastically in the last few years, UK trains don't have bells, so the B key should be perfectly acceptable for a horn... or should it?

staticxfreak · Post by **staticxfreak** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:27 pm

As UK locomotives don't have bells... the B key is unassigned... thus the use of "B" for another assignment (ie. a different tone of horn) would be perfectly acceptable.. lol

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:52 pm

There are some downloads out there where the B key is already assigned - not necessarily to a bell, though. so these horns wouldn't work with that.

nelson · Post by **nelson** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:22 pm

Firstly you cant' have downloaded many DMU's and certainly can't have the Cambrian coast DMU's installed as a lot of them have buzzers and bells and wotnot. The statement I made was only to warn people who do have such things on their B key and to solicit some USEFUL advice not lame useless banter by VERY ACTIVE FORUM MEMBERS who have nothing better to do than slag peoples efforts. Also, the class 37 sounds I made uses an already assigned B key for the higher tone, assigned by the origional author Bob Potts.
Love
Nelson xxx

nelson · Post by **nelson** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:23 pm

And other British diesel and leccy units have things on their B keys!!!!
Which is where I got the origional idea.

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:43 pm

thenudehamster wrote:This is me in stupid mode, I know, but why would one need the Bell key on a British unit?
And where does a DMU buzzer come into it? The only ones I've ever seen were operated by the guard as a 'right away' signal - and that was actually a bell like a London bus.

Hi Barry
Call us sados....but what hes refering to is exactly that...you press the B key...you get buzz buzz (like the guard would have) and your away..
I know its daft...(as you've just done it yourself)....but I love it...just adds to the fun.
Jon

nelson · Post by **nelson** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:54 pm

Thanks for that Jon, glad someone knows what I'm on about. Would be nice to have both the seperate horn tones and the bell/buzzer to play with yeh?

thenudehamster · Post by **thenudehamster** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:21 pm

nelson wrote:Firstly you cant' have downloaded many DMU's and certainly can't have the Cambrian coast DMU's installed as a lot of them have buzzers and bells and wotnot. The statement I made was only to warn people who do have such things on their B key and to solicit some USEFUL advice not lame useless banter by VERY ACTIVE FORUM MEMBERS who have nothing better to do than slag peoples efforts. Also, the class 37 sounds I made uses an already assigned B key for the higher tone, assigned by the origional author Bob Potts.
Love
Nelson xxx

Let's get something straight - my interest is mainly in steam; I have a few DMUs that either came with the likes of MidEast, or were needed for specific activities. I do NOT have Cambrian Coast at this point in time.

I specifically prefaced my question (not banter) with the remark that 'this is me in stupid mode' because I recognised the seemingly dumb question; buzzers and bells for the driver to operate do not form part of the limited experience I have had over the years of DMU and EMU operation in the UK.
I was asking for clarification, not in any way slagging off anyone's efforts.

Jon has explained it adequately, and with humour. You, Nelson, either did not read my post properly, or chose not to understand it properly.

nelson · Post by **nelson** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:10 pm

Barry, my apologies for being a bit testy, I didn't mean to rant at you, just a bit frustrated that I can't get the damn thing to work out and no one seems to know what to do but it would be nice if we can have two tones and buzzers together. A bit of humour goes a long way normally, I'm just a moody old xxxx like my dog Henry.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:35 pm

Nelson, just a quick note, Very Active Forum Member refers to post number totals. It has taken me over 2 years to get that title, we aren't just sad. 1100ish posts since 22 Aug 2002 isn't a very high frequency

Regards

thenudehamster · Post by **thenudehamster** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:38 pm

Apology accepted, Nelson,

As for how you do it, I'm not certain. The 'N' key would seem to be an obvious candidate for the secoNd tone, but I'm not certain how to program it as a one-shot key (on while held) rather than a toggle or a ramp-up arrangement like the blower.
You might try a question in the sound forum; there's a few knowledgeable types that peruse there..?

Regards to Henry.

nelson · Post by **nelson** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:50 pm

ok Barry thanks for that, a lick off Henry...slurrrp

micksasse · Post by **micksasse** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:50 pm

To be very pedantic, in a DMU where the guard uses the buzzer to give a right-away, the driver should "acknowledge by repetition" - that is, should give the same signal back to the guard, so strictly speaking there are driver-operated buzzers as well...

I'll get me coat.

Nice horn sounds, Nelson - thanks!

thenudehamster · Post by **thenudehamster** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:59 pm

micksasse wrote:To be very pedantic, in a DMU where the guard uses the buzzer to give a right-away, the driver should "acknowledge by repetition" - that is, should give the same signal back to the guard, so strictly speaking there are driver-operated buzzers as well...

I'll get me coat.

Nice horn sounds, Nelson - thanks!

So now I know. Which was the whole point of the exercise - thanks.