Signals

General MSTS related discussion that doesn't really fit into any of the other specific forums.

Moderator: Moderators

Locked
User avatar
RobertM
Very Active Forum Member
Posts: 5907
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:28 pm
Location: Centre of my own universe, where its scary

Signals

Post by RobertM »

Hi all,

Does anyone know how to get a shunt signal to work without having to set a path for it.

For example, I have downloaded Simon Barnes shunt signals (which I was very impressed with) and the single disk one requires you to set it a path otherwise it'll remain at danger. I want to use this signal to stop trains from going onto the main line from the yard without having to set it a route.
Last edited by RobertM on Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
johny
Very Active Forum Member
Posts: 2609
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2001 12:00 am
Location: N. Warks, UK.

Post by johny »

You need to make a copy of the .s and .sd files for the signal.

Rename the two files by adding a suffix such as sp for special.

Open the .sd file in WordPad and change the .s file name to the new name.

Open the sigcfg.dat file in WordPad, or any Unicode editor, find the shape description for the original signal and copy and paste the description, then change the shape name to that of the new signal.

In the shape description for the new signal, change ( DEFAULT ) to read ( JN_LINK )

At the start of the shapes section, increase the number of shapes by one.

Install the new signal in RE and set the Link in Signal Properties to join the main line.

The signal will show red in the track monitor and can be driven past, eg into a head shunt without getting game over.

However, if the points were set to join the main line and the main line was occupied, the signal would still show red and if driven past you would get game over, if the line is unoccupied it will show green.

John
User avatar
Bigant
Very Active Forum Member
Posts: 1220
Joined: Sat Mar 23, 2002 12:00 am
Location: Midlands, CC5 and Burton Derby Author

Post by Bigant »

I think he means, he wants a signal to control the exit from a yard without the headshunt.
Which means he has to change from JN_Link to Default as its already a
linked signal, but still a very informative answer

Don
Author Cannock Chase, Black Country 1,
Burton, Derby & District route, co-author Scottish Central plus route. Now working on Stoke - Nottingham route an upgrade to Burton Derby route
User avatar
johny
Very Active Forum Member
Posts: 2609
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2001 12:00 am
Location: N. Warks, UK.

Post by johny »

I have had to download this kit to see for myself.

The single disc signal in the kit does not have a link to be set, which means it is controlling both the head shunt and the connection to the mainline, and it is this, I think, he wants to change. If so then he needs to insert the SignalFlags ( JN_LINK ) command in the script.

He would still need to create another signal using the method I described.

The signal user guide supplied with the kit shows the intended use of the single disc single is to control both head shunt and connection.

John
User avatar
ThamesClyde
Well Established Forum Member
Posts: 986
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: Derby,Derbyshire,Centre of the London Midland Region
Contact:

Post by ThamesClyde »

Jon
What I've done is a bit lazy really, in my first pack (BR(M)) I scripted the single shunting disc to have a junction link (i set it up like this as it was to be used within Stoke Division for crossovers and I didnt want it coming off for any other route except the crossover), in my latest pack i've scripted it without a link but used the same signal use diagram from my first pack. I do apologise for the poor installation instructions, writing indepth instructions like you get with your models Jon isnt my strong point.
:oops:
Any problems or anything else Robert M and I'll try and help out.
Simon (BescotBeast, ThamesClyde)
"Obviously not a member of the Clique"
User avatar
ThamesClyde
Well Established Forum Member
Posts: 986
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: Derby,Derbyshire,Centre of the London Midland Region
Contact:

Post by ThamesClyde »

During the course off this morning i'll be uploading an updated LMS/BR shunt disc pack and MR/LMS shunt disc pack the BR one will have the models updated to include the counterweight and both packs will also include a linked and non linked version of the single shunt disc(stop variety not the yellow as the yellow always needs to be linked so that the green only come off dor the mainline connection) also Jon has said i can use his instructions that comes with his packs as his are a lot more informative than mine are.
Hope this helps people out and gives greater variety.
Simon
"Obviously not a member of the Clique"
tinsley
Very Active Forum Member
Posts: 1247
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2001 12:00 am
Location: LONDON

Post by tinsley »

Hi Simon,
Just a quick thank you for all your contributions. I am an 'LMS' man and really appreciate all the things that add that 'little something'. :lol:
Keep'em coming :wink: :D
Georges
User avatar
ThamesClyde
Well Established Forum Member
Posts: 986
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: Derby,Derbyshire,Centre of the London Midland Region
Contact:

Post by ThamesClyde »

Thanks Georges, thats my aim really, to create all those little detailing items to make up the bigger picture. I'm always on the lookout for new projects and my next project will be some LNER/ER searchlight signals based on one that I measured up at Loughborough as well as my LMS Speed Signal models, theses are nearly finished now all that needs doing with these is a signal script being written for the Junction indicator.This is being looked into by John who has provided me with countless hours of assistance to my many enquiries to him.
Regards
Simon
"Obviously not a member of the Clique"
User avatar
RobertM
Very Active Forum Member
Posts: 5907
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:28 pm
Location: Centre of my own universe, where its scary

Post by RobertM »

Thanks Simon.

This new version will be of great help in my re-signaling of the Cambrian Route.

Will I still be able to use the Modified SIGSFG and SIGSCR files from V1 or will they have to be updated

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
ThamesClyde
Well Established Forum Member
Posts: 986
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: Derby,Derbyshire,Centre of the London Midland Region
Contact:

Post by ThamesClyde »

Robert all thats changed is an extra "Signal shape" (plus the relevant shape files) in the sigcfg file, this is for the extra single disc model. There is now a linked version and an un linked version to cater for peoples needs.
Simon
"Obviously not a member of the Clique"
Locked

Return to “[MSTS1] General MSTS Discussion”