Crash and Collision physics in MSTS

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:56 am

LucaZone wrote:Sad to say, MSTS Crash site does infact feature real life rail crashes. There is also a page dedicated to suppling Activities that are designed to crash trains.

All of which u said 0.001% of people would be all it takes to cause major grief is happening on MSTS Crash Site.

Ive contacted a number of Model and Route authors about the site, and suprisingly many of them already know about it, and in some cases company lawyers of the real life trains / stations / routes are involved, yet the site continues to operate.

You mean your were asked for a five figure sum by Eurostar for the CTRL. The sweetner is you take crashes out of the simulation....

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:58 pm

To get back to the point then..........

what effect does it have on allowing TrainSimmers to do what they want, and Commercial Developers making good products for it.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:11 pm

LucaZone wrote:To get back to the point then..........

What effect does it have on allowing TrainSimmers to do what they want, and Commercial Developers making good products for it.

It means in MSTS 2 some trains won't derail - Even though we know if you go around a 1000 mr curve at 186mph you will.

It also means that commercial developers maybe prevented from making products that derail - or even products at all. Sometimes a TOC may put up with what they perceive as adverse PR by charging extra. Both parties are in business, so this is quite normal.

terrycunliffe · Post by **terrycunliffe** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:20 pm

A sensible compromise would be:-
Trains could de-rail (a part of the 'realism')
But, when they did,
They remained upright and intact (as part of the PC)
Just a thought

Terry

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:07 pm

LucaZone wrote:There is also a page dedicated to suppling Activities that are designed to crash trains.

No there isn't! It is even less than half a page! Just 2 activities!

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:17 pm

Its nor a real crash.

Its only a game.

thenudehamster · Post by **thenudehamster** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:17 pm

And all any of this discussion proves is that you'll never please all of the people all of the time.
The only real problem will come when whichever members of the 'pc police' are in a position to, or have enough influence to, affect the programming. Till then, it's all just hot air.

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:26 pm

its more than just hot air im affraid...............

it is a very real issue in the Commercial MSTS world.

Cuchulain · Post by **Cuchulain** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:24 pm

terrycunliffe wrote:A sensible compromise would be:-
Trains could de-rail (a part of the 'realism')
But, when they did,
They remained upright and intact (as part of the PC)
Just a thought
Terry

Agreed.
Someone said before, the reason it has the ability to simulate crashes, is to boost its sales.