Atomic Systems

Hi, please vote and comment if you wish.

To help you along (or maybe not) heres something i just spotted on the BBC news website today:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3465221.stm

What are your views?

Thanks,

Lee


Britains newest Intercity Franchise - Now in Operation - 1 Week old today!

I would love to see new high speed routes on the UK network, but I just can't see it happening due to the costs involved.

Would be the correct way to solving road traffic and air traffic congestion problems,

Its worked in Japan, Germany, France,.......

Can't our government take a hint.........

No their useless sod who won't in any way invest in the railways which are rapidly falling behind the times.

If we did, which I would support 110% I bet it would be alot better than the French network, ever looked at the number of TGVs from the south of France to the North? I expected it to be like hourly, its very irregular. Ours would be far superior to Frances and could easily match the Germans if we tried.

If it was built think of the pressure it would release on the East and West coast, we could increase the number of local services in and out of London and there could be more North - South freight, especially If they get on with building a freight line round London.

I also think it would have a high rider ship, although we have a love affair with the car, If you look how bad our rail network is, and how expensive it is, look at the rider ship in the UK. Its massive so with a good network it would be even higher. Only catch is that motorways would become less crowded would be resort to people returning to the roads?

Absolutely!!! I had a big argument with one or two people on this forum about that, and to them I just say this: look at Japan! Before you say "we're not Japan" consider their population density. For sure, if it works for them it will work for us!

Simply convert the M1/M6/M74/M8 into 4 lane motorways and lay high speed railtracks on the other carriageway. Instant high speed trains to central Scotland at a fraction of the price of a brand new route. The motorways will be empty when the oil runs out anyway.

Im glad they propose to go through BNS, BUT I dont think Brum Rail People will like it, as (correct me if im wrong) wasnt BNS meant to take something like 250 trains a day, but it currently accepts and departs around 750? Hmm....

"She can't take anymore cap'in, we're giving her all she's got". lol

Of course we should build high speed lines................

But we won't.

They only do that in civilised countries.

ianmacmillan wrote:Of course we should build high speed lines................

But we won't.

They only do that in civilised countries.

Ay that was my argument, only in countries with civilised Governments........

.........we'd rather follow America into any war they say

CERTAINLY!

It will keep me in the TrainSim route building industry!

No we shouldn't.Instead of wasting billions of pounds connecting a few "selected" destinations,the whole network should be upgraded and revitalised.The railway is a community asset and should never have been privatised and improvement should be across the board.

Out today:

Press notice: http://www.cfit.gov.uk/pn/040209/index.htm

Commission for Integrated Transport wrote: Planning for a high-speed rail network needed now - CfIT advises Government

The Government and the SRA should start planning now for a network of high speed railway lines across the UK, the Commission for Integrated Transport advised ministers today in a new report. Schemes that offer good value for money should be actively pursued.

Full report available here: http://www.cfit.gov.uk/research/hsr/index.htm

Comment

Lib Dems:

http://www.libdems.org.uk/index.cfm/pag ... ticle.6041

SRA

No comment yet.

Tories

No comment. Can only find the usual rubbish like "its Labour's fault the railways are ., Conservatives would make it all better like they did 79-97(!)"

Government

No comment

Bring back Nationalisation

"But Shadow Transport Secretary Damian Green said: "These are interesting ideas but sadly premature given the current state of the railways.

"Passengers are understandably more worried about whether their daily train is going to run on time than on what will be happening in ten years time." " - from the BBC article above.

This is exactly what is wrong with the situation. Typical Tories. If what happens in ten years time is not planned now, then the railways will still be in the same situation in ten years time. And believe it or not high speed lines can help other routes as they will carry more feeder traffic to the high speed lines improving the case to upgrade them more with specific technology for "IntoCity" transport.

Some well thought-out views here.

The rail industry doesn't have enough money to upgrade the current network (electrification plans for routes binned, upgrades to current ECML electricfication binned for example), so where is the money coming from to build a HSL?

Correct me if I am wrong, but the Conseratives were in power when privatisation started. Well, they can't make much more of a mess of the current rail network than they did back then.

Personally I, like the general train travelling public, am more concerned with how long I have to wait for a late-running service, and what the excuse of the day is than what new lines we may have in the future. Connect London and Edinburgh if you want, but this is a waste of money, which we don't have, seeing as we have the ECML already. I've not travelled along the ECML, so I cannot comment on its current state accurately. An upgrade would be most helpful.

Perhaps the more important issue to be concerned with in the rail industry right now is the replacement of the 43s. What will we replace them with? More importantly, when are plans going to be finalised?

All views written without reading the BBC's report, which is most likely to be filled with inaccuracies.