70013 to return to steam!

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70013 to return to steam!

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70013 (Oliver Cromwell) will return to steam, but needs your help! Steam Railway is having an "Cromwell Appeal" and must raise 70000 (lol) quid to get the locos parts overhalled! I'm for it! Be good if the got 70000 back in steam too!
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trainmad wrote:70013 (Oliver Cromwell) will return to steam, but needs your help! Steam Railway is having an "Cromwell Appeal" and must raise 70000 (lol) quid to get the locos parts overhalled! I'm for it! Be good if the got 70000 back in steam too!
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trainmad wrote:70013 (Oliver Cromwell) will return to steam, but needs your help! Steam Railway is having an "Cromwell Appeal" and must raise 70000 (lol) quid to get the locos parts overhalled! I'm for it! Be good if the got 70000 back in steam too!
How do you now about this? the latest steam railway magazine is not due out till Friday? where do you find out the info from?
Would be great to see this engine out.

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I have the mag on subscription.. so i get it a couple of days before it's due out....

A deal has been signed with Bressingham so the loco WILL be released... unlike in 1993.
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That means mine has arrived in the post. But I don't get home until 6:30 pm .!

I though that the NRM didn't want it to steam because it has the last autherntic BR paint job on it. :-?

I am still waiting for Pete Waterman to get on at get 70000 Britannia working again.

(Then again I am still saving to get my 3 1/2'' Britannia working so maybe he is having the same problesm....) :roll:

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BR7MT wrote:I though that the NRM didn't want it to steam because it has the last autherntic BR paint job on it. :-?
No the NRM was all for it last time, its just Bressingham wanted something like Green Arrow to replace Ollie so there was no chance of getting him out.
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That thing about the paint was mentioned before the planned cavalcade at Shildon in 2000. They didn't want to repaint the tender (because the paint is peeling slightly) so they were to borrow Britannia's one from Crewe, repaint it and use it instead of 70013's original tender.
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:D :D :D :D :D

Good news if it gets off the ground this time.....

Who's doing the work, as Bressingham are currently tied up with Royal Scot and Martello?
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I think the NRM's workshops will be doing the work. Ollie will be at the Railfest at York and then go into the workshops.
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hi guys

this was a press release by the GCR Railway Loughborough Today on the release of the Steam Railway Magazine

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70013 "Oliver Cromwell to be restored at GCR in unique partnership
agreement

BACKGROUND

In 1968 the last steam special ran on the national network. It was
intended to use 70000 "Britannia" on that working and then place it
in the care of the national collection. In the event the engine was
replaced by 70013 "Oliver Cromwell" of the same class which was in
better condition.

After hauling the "Fifteen Guinea Special" 70013 ran light engine to
East Anglia to go on display at Bressingham Gardens.

Some ten years ago an attempt was made to extricate the engine from
Bressingham and restore it to main line use but this failed in a
spectacular manner for a variety of reasons.

70013 remains in the care of Bressingham and is largely forgotten by
the current preservation scene.

In 1970 the early issues of "Main Line" magazine talked of possible
main line locomotives to operate on the fledgling GCR, and one of
these was 70000 "Britannia" which was purchased by a group of
enthusiasts for just that purpose. This, also, never happened.

A NEW STRATEGY

After many months of negotiations a plan to bring 70013 back to life
has now been agreed between all parties, i.e. NRM, GCR, Loughborough
Standard Locomotive Group, 5305 Locomotive Association and the
Bressingham Trustees, with "Steam Railway" magazine launching a
funding appeal.

The locomotive will move to York and star in the "Railfest"
activities at the end of May.

It will then move to the Great Central Railway for overhaul to main
line standards after which it will spend four months each year for a
number of years operating on GCR metals. The rest of the time will be
working on the national network as required by the NRM and on display
at York.

It will also appear at Bressingham although they have accepted that
substitute locomotives from the national collection will be
acceptable on most occasions.

THE OVERHAUL

The work will be done by members of the Loughborough Standard
loccomotive Group and 5305 Locomotive Association under the direction
of the GCR Locomotive Engineer with the project managed by the GCR
Project Manager and his team in the same way that 63601 was returned
to steam.

The work will be to main line standards using best practice
acceptable to the museum (including photographic records) and,
subject to major problems being discovered, must be completed within
two and a half years of the engine's arrival at GCR.

FUNDING

An appeal will be launched by "Steam Railway" magazine in its next
issue published on 29th January 2004 with benefits provided in a
similar manner to the O4 appeal with the addition of some benefits
from the National Railway museum. Bankers will be Friends of the NRM
as before.

Other sources of funding will be sought as needed and it is hoped
that Main Line Steam Trust will assist.

Additionally it is proposed to hold a special gala weekend on GCR
with the locomotive on display before work begins and also to offer a
special kind of photographic charter with 70013 and (say) 45305 to
hark back to August 1968.

GCR Chairman John East said: " I am particularly grateful to Andrew
Scott and the NRM for giving us the opportunity to be involved in
this nationally important project, to members of the Loughborough
Standard Locomotive Group and 5303 Locomotive Association for
agreeing to undertake the work, to David Howdle who has agreed to
chair the Project Management Team and the Trustees of Bressingham
Gardens for their imaginative approach to the proposal.

I am sure that all parties are grateful for the support of "Steam
Railway" magazine for their promotion of the funding appeal. Without
the necessary funding, we are not going to achieve our aims.

We will succeed and in less than three years we shall see this
important locomotive back in service both on the GCR and other
railways."

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this was rellease by the The Chairman of the Board at the GCR today (29/01/2004) John East


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It will look fantastic on the GCR :D

looking forward to seeing it on the Settle and Carlisle again
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http://195.60.10.124/winson/britannia_pix/page_01.htm

Not 70013 but a good site for Britannia fans 8)
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Our family are donating £150!
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trainmad wrote:Our family are donating £150!
So who is the lucky 1 who gets the footplate ride? ;)
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I guess most of those interested would get Steam Railway anyway - but for those who haven't there are some nice :) incentives (prints, bits of old boiler tube, cab ride, tickets for NRM and GCR etc.) offered to encourage donations above £20. These can be sent to:

Lynn Best,
Steam Railway,
Emap Active Limited,
Bretton Court,
Peterborough,
PE3 8DZ.

cheques made payable to "FNRM (70013 Fund)".

PS. I have NO affiliation with any organisation involved, but would love to see a Britannia steam on the mainline again :D
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