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Rail Industry resisting modernisation!

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BBC NEws wrote:Rail watchdog 'being undermined'

SRA chairman Richard Bowker could have his powers reduced
The chairman of the government rail watchdog says people who do not want to see the industry modernised are trying to undermine his position.
Reports have suggested the transport secretary plans to cut the Strategic Rail Authority's powers because of concerns over its effectiveness.

But Richard Bowker told BBC Radio 4's Today he had had "no indication" of this from Alistair Darling. The person behind the story was "one of those who fears change", he said. There are pockets of resistance in this industry. The SRA is responsible for overall development of the railways and regulating passenger services.

Mr Bowker said he had made a commitment "to lead and sort out this industry for the benefit of the customers who use it, the taxpayer and the wider economy that relies upon it. "I do honestly think there are pockets of resistance in this industry, and whoever briefed this particular story clearly is one of those who fears change and doesn't have delivery at the top of their agenda," he said. "Alistair Darling and I are at one that we do have delivery at the top of our agenda."

'Need to change' Mr Bowker said resistance to change could be found both in the industry and in the bureaucratic communities of Whitehall. "But the railways are a public service and do a vital job and are essential to the economic and financial well-being of this country and they do need to change," he added. The reports have also been dismissed as "speculation" by the Department for Transport.

But on Monday it did say that the SRA's annual strategy document, due this month, was being put back until July. Any possible change in the SRA's status was welcomed by the Institute for Public Policy and Research think tank on Monday. Its associate director Tony Grayling said: "There is a strong case for merging the SRA, the Office of the Rail Regulator and rail safety arm of the Health and Safety Executive to create a single strategic regulator for the railways... Regulation is currently fragmented."
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Just goes to show what mad fools your political leaders are. I mean, only a few years ago, your government spent 5 pounds per person per year on the railways. Even the Portuguese spent more on their railways. As you sow, so shall ye reap.
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And how much has NZ sowed and reaped?
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Just goes to show what mad fools your political leaders are.
Never heard much good about NZ's political leaders meself... :roll:

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When do politicians get lauded for doing good things in their own country, let alone 12,000 miles away :roll:?
You only ever hear if they've cocked up - something our government has down to a fine art :(.
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All those who ACTUALLY KNOW who NZ's political leaders are please raise your hand.


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suffolk wrote:All those who ACTUALLY KNOW who NZ's political leaders are please raise your hands.

I think that the NZ PM is a Mr Helen Clarke.

I know Helen is traditionally a girl's name - but if it looks like a sheep and walks like a sheep, then I know where my money is...
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Where on earth did New Zealand Politicians come form in this conversation? :-?
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The Government has suppressed a rail industry document that paints an alarming picture of a ramshackle network which will fail to show any major improvement unless the industry receives billions of pounds extra from taxpayers.

With just 18 months to go before a possible election, the annual report by the Strategic Rail Authority (SRA), leaked to The Independent, has been "binned". The strategy paper, due for publication this month, confirms that the Government's 10-year plan for the network is in tatters.

Senior sources in the industry and within Whitehall say the document has been scrapped after its fourth rewrite because it would have put considerable pressure on Gordon Brown to release more money for enhancements to the network.

The report shows the target for increasing the number of passengers using trains and the amount of freight on the network will be undershot by a massive margin unless Tony Blair authorises a huge increase in investment. Under current funding arrangements, the number of passengers will increase by 24 per cent in the decade to 2010 rather than the 50 per cent envisaged and the amount of freight carried will rise by 55 per cent not the 80 per cent planned.

All of the £64bn earmarked in the 10-year plan announced in 2000 to create a system "fit for the 21st century" will be soaked up simply in maintaining the present network, the document reveals. The gap between income - including state subsidy - and expenditure has risen by £500m to £2bn in 20003-2004, the report says.

The 130-page submission, which will make depressing reading for the millions of commuters who have to endure crowded trains every day, went through four drafts before it was decided that it was unfit for publication. The Independent has a copy of the fourth and final version, entitled "A railway that works for customers", dated 16 December.

In particular, it spells out the main projects which the Government has failed to finance and which show little sign of attracting state backing.

Among them are the critical renewal of the ageing main lines between London and Edinburgh and from the capital to the west country and Wales. It points out that awaiting approval are the trans-London Crossrail and Thameslink 2000 schemes and the East London Line Extension, vital for the bid to stage the 2012 Olympics.

Plans for a new dedicated high-speed railway between London and the North - the pet project of Richard Bowker, chairman of the SRA - is among the "unfunded".

It is understood that the Department for Transport believes the document, even after four rewrites, amounts to little more than a politically damaging "wish list", much of which the Treasury will refuse to countenance.

Both the department and the SRA say it was "common sense" to delay any conclusions on strategy until the Chancellor had completed his comprehensive spending review in the summer.

The document says: "It is vital that development work for improvements that could be built in the next decade and beyond is under way now." It adds: "Although improvements are being made, varying from operator to operator, the perception too often remains that the railway is not run to benefit its customers and is not a coherent network."

It says that, while there has been increased spending since privatisation, resources for further expansion are "very constrained". It adds: "There is much more to be done than can, in the short term at least, be afforded." It reveals that the top three causes of train delays for which Network Rail was responsible have all got worse. Track circuit failures were up by 15 per cent, broken rails - the cause of the Hatfield disaster - were up by 31 per cent and points failures by 15 per cent.

The news comes after The Independent revealed that the Department for Transport is planning to rein in the SRA which ministers argue has already spent huge sums of taxpayers' money without any discernible improvement to services. Punctuality and reliability has remained static and, on long-distance routes, has got substantially worse.

Ministers are known to be desperate for "good news" that they can spread about the railways before the general election rather than a brutally honest assessment like this.

However a spokesman for the SRA said: "Honesty is not incompatible with the electoral cycle. We don't think - and the Government does not think -that." He said that Mr Bowker had always insisted that he would not go the Government with a "begging bowl".

A spokesman for the department said ministers had not seen the draft. He continued: "This document is in the bin. There will be a new document in July which will take into account the comprehensive spending review."
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Why do the Government bother suppresing such news? Anybody who uses the railways knows they are knackered. All these new units that are introduced are . to travel in. The Mk3 coach is the most comfortable there is and by far the smoothest. To replace them with voyagers with there vile aircraft stile (miss-spelt on purpose) seats, . all leg room, not lined up to windows, the list goes on and on. None of this is suprising when you consider that the Government collect 38 billion pounds in revenue from road and fuel tax per year. They WANT us on the roads, not the railways :evil: :evil: :evil:
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jimmyladd wrote:The Mk3 coach is the most comfortable there is and by far the smoothest.
Don't you like the Mk.4s :o?
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Yes the mk4 is a good coach, but for ride quality I think th MK3 is the best. I think this may have somthing to do with the mk4 being designed to run at 140mph. So I am told by those in the trade that they run superbly at 140 to 150 mph.
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Well at least we got new carrages at all rather than those knackered old ones.

Why do I fear the replacement document will be Beeching Report Mark II?
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I think you might be right.
If the government had it's way would there be one single straight line running down the country with train and it doesn't stop anywhere in between, and when that falls off the track that's it, they'll rip up the track and blame Thatcher and Major?
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