3 Car 158

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:17 pm

i saw one of these in Wolverhampton on Monday, does this happen very often? looks like one of the units set mates was out of service

mikey2001 · Post by **mikey2001** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:19 pm

They are fairly common oop north, Arriva run them on Trans Pennine services to Sunderland, Newcastle, Darlington etc.

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:24 pm

Central Trains are having a brain wave and making a few of their 158's 3 car, I seen 2 at the mo.
Pete

jjules · Post by **jjules** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:26 pm

I've never seen one, but by God were they needed yesterday down in Cardiff! The 1645 service to Pembroke Dock pulled in Cardiff, already half-full. Somewhere between 150 and 200 people tried to get on that service, and it was only a 2-car service! It was also the first time I'd ever heard the annoucer say the train was full, and said to wait for the 1700 FGW instead!

jjules · Post by **jjules** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:28 pm

Besides, I thought 158s always operated in 2 or 4-car sets anyway...Didn't know they could run in 3-car formation. No excuse not to provide enough carriages then Wales and Borders!

TrainSimminNick · Post by **TrainSimminNick** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:00 pm

petermakosch wrote:Central Trains are having a brain wave and making a few of their 158's 3 car

They are !

Seen two of them

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:05 pm

this topic has already been discussed. Tyr searching for 3-Car 158's or something, and there is a picture

philbozz · Post by **philbozz** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:27 pm

yep normally3-car for CT i think, although i saw a 2-car pulling into Tyseley yard earlier

jjules · Post by **jjules** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:30 pm

CT 3-car 158's?

Never seen a set like that, they've ALWAYS been 2-car 158's if we're lucky up in Hereford.

Mind you, they don't treat us to a 170 very often either...I went on one from Newport to Cardiff the other day, and how nice it was. The only train not to be 100% covered in graffiti and owned by CT. Someone had started on the CT logo on the front end mind...

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:44 pm

sod it, cant find the other post. maybe it was just a dream (just a dream just a dream, echo's like a dream, lke a dream)

barrymcguire9999 · Post by **barrymcguire9999** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:18 pm

CT have 10 of them, 5 sets disbanded so as to provide 10 vehicles to make 10 3 car sets, regulars in Liverpool.

nightbeaver911 · Post by **nightbeaver911** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:44 am

Derby always gets 3car units when ever it doesnt need them

andiofwbafc · Post by **andiofwbafc** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:07 pm

I got this when searching the internet on this webpage http://icrs.org.uk/inf_units.htm

New Central Trains Class 158 Formations May 21st 2003

Central trains have formed up 8 x 3-Car Class 158s this week formed as follows:

158951 52780 57780 57784
158952 52785 57785 52789
158953 52790 57790 52792
158954 52786 57786 52793
158955 52794 57794 57793
158956 52795 57795 52784
158957 52796 57796 57789
158958 52797 57797 57792

This effectively means 158780/785/786/790/794/795/796/797 are reformed and 158784/789/792/793 are disbanded.

This information is a bit outdated but they are still running like this to the best of my knowledge. I've witnessed quite a few of these at Wolverhampton myself in the last 6 months.

Hope this helps

thedarkness · Post by **thedarkness** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:23 pm

I think he means 2 158's made into a 3 car, ie not a 159 idea. From the coach numbers post, sounds like we got the right idea

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:51 am

what i meant was there was 1 front coach, then another front coach, then the rea coach. kinda like theyve been doin with 150s for years. weird.