How did the motor rail train catch fire

johncas · Post by **johncas** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:14 am

Can someone tell me how the motor rail train full of citron cars and vans left the freight deport ok and managed to catch fire someware dureing it's trip what caused this it caught fire when trveling down the west coast mainline.

Was there a fault with the cars and vans did a spark cause the fire

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/3160446.stm

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:22 am

Well, it did say, "An investigation into the cause of the fire has begun, but it is thought it started inside one of the vans." So no one knows the exact reason now...

johncas · Post by **johncas** » Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:08 pm

Ok thanks for that proberbly a electrical fault or some other fault inside one of the vans. It was luckey the train driver comeing in the other direction saw it or if could of been nutch more serious a moveing inferno

cs1000 · Post by **cs1000** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:09 am

from the end of the line forum (member of)

EWS Driver alerted the emergency services after the cartics caught fire after a hot axle. Driver unhurt but track is being repaired and in a bit of a mess. Train was 2133 Washwood-Heath-Bathgate loaded cartics with Citroens. Train then returns with the empties using ECML but wont be doing that yet. I think that the burnt cartics (2 of them) will be getting dumped at Carnforth or being scrapped on site just like at Quintinshill

cs1000 · Post by **cs1000** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:10 am

edited due to the fact it was posted twice

nwallace · Post by **nwallace** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:21 pm

The reports say vans but im sure the picture the paper showed burnt out Peugot 206s

They defiantley were not Berlingos
(The Citroen/Pug van)

Niall

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:01 pm

nwallace wrote:The reports say vans but im sure the picture the paper showed burnt out Peugot 206s

They defiantley were not Berlingos
(The Citroen/Pug van)

Niall

Could have been a 206 car derivided van.

Post by **martinhodgson** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:26 pm

buffy500 wrote:
nwallace wrote:The reports say vans but im sure the picture the paper showed burnt out Peugot 206s

They defiantley were not Berlingos
(The Citroen/Pug van)

Niall
Could have been a 206 car derivided van.

Citreon dont make the 206

nwallace · Post by **nwallace** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:05 pm

Different picture from what was in the dundee courier but this picture on sky news site defiantley does not show vans

http://www.skynews.co.uk/skynews/articl ... 83,00.html

Im sure i can see a 206 and a C3

Citreon dont make the 206

Also car derived vans usually have their rear side windows covered over with body work, and there is clearly glass holes there

grahamrfd · Post by **grahamrfd** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:55 pm

The vehicles definately wouldn't be vans loaded on that type of wagon ( TAL 489 ) as they would be out of gauge, vans are loaded on flats. Someone told me last week that one of the peugeot models is prone to spontaneous combustion, I just hope it isn't the 406 as i have just got one.

johncas · Post by **johncas** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:22 pm

BBC News said it was Citron Vans and Cars

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:49 pm

Latest suggestions are that illegal immigrants were travelling on the train.

Reports say the interior light was seen to be on in one of the vans.

It would not be the first time.

simuk · Post by **simuk** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:03 pm

I'd heard it was Citrons and Peugeots, and remembered a report about Peugeots that had faulty starter motors, and that they'd keep trying to start even when parked, and eventually burst in to flames.

Quick search of google bought up http://www.fireservice.co.uk/forum/inde ... #entry8511

Think this might be what grahamrfd is saying about with the "Someone told me last week that one of the peugeot models is prone to spontaneous combustion". Wonder if it could be the cause...?

johncas · Post by **johncas** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:39 pm

Yeh saw that on watchdog and the interior light in a van being on that could of been left on by a worker by mistake