Comparing the reliabity of builders

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:07 am

Zackybong1 wrote:[GEC ALSTHOM became a publicly-quoted company after its successful flotation on the Paris, London and New York stock exchanges, and was renamed ALSTOM in June '98.

Wasn't GEC Alsthom formed by Alcatel Alsthom and and General Electric Company?
Then which companies were Bombardier made of?

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:59 pm

Stooopidperson wrote:
Zackybong1 wrote:[GEC ALSTHOM became a publicly-quoted company after its successful flotation on the Paris, London and New York stock exchanges, and was renamed ALSTOM in June '98.
Wasn't GEC Alsthom formed by Alcatel Alsthom and and General Electric Company?
Then which companies were Bombardier made of?

Alsthom Atlantique/CGE-Fiat/Cagelec/Alcatel linked up to GEC(UK) in 1988.
In 1998 GEC Alsthom is floated and renamed Alstom (Alcatel retaining 24% share)
Alcatel Alsthom renamed Alcatel in the same year.

Bombardier Transportation - this well-established Canadian firm already had a substantial presence the UK by 2001, when after lengthy regulatory procedures it was authorized to buy out its rival Adtranz. The history of Adtranz is complex: the ailing Brel Limited was bought out by ABB, a consortium of Swedish ASEA and Swiss Brown Boveri. The railway interests of ABB were later formed into Adtranz, a joint venture with Daimler Benz of Germany. Not bad for a company started by Armand Bombardier in 1942 to build snow-buggies!

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:32 pm

I will soon be adding the prototype/experimental locos. Possibly the the multiple units too. (if I feel like it!).

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:52 am

Zackybong1 wrote:I will soon be adding the prototype/experimental locos. Possibly the the multiple units too. (if I feel like it!).

Eh? Multiple units, haven't you already added the EMU and DMUs?

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:20 am

He means prototype/experimental MU's

. You really are stoopid aren't you?

David.

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:31 am

rwaceyw wrote:He means prototype/experimental MU's . You really are stoopid aren't you?

David.

Of course I am! Or why is my username Stooopidperson and live on Planet Stooopid?

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:40 am

Stooopidperson wrote:
rwaceyw wrote:He means prototype/experimental MU's . You really are stoopid aren't you?

David.
Of course I am! Or why is my username Stooopidperson and live on Planet Stooopid?

Its getting pretty dull now though. Everyone knows you're an idiot, there is little need to carry on proving them all right.
Everyone could come accross as a tw@t if they wanted too, just most choose not too.
You sometimes come up with some good stuff, and you obviously know what you are talking about sometimes, why not just 'use your powers for good' ?

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:48 am

buffy500 wrote:You sometimes come up with some good stuff

What good stuff did I come up with?

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:48 pm

Eh, what's that Metro-Cammell-Laird in the VECTIS units?

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:39 pm

Er... Yes... They built it. OK?

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:50 pm

Zackybong1 wrote:Er... Yes... They built it. OK?

So did "Laird" merge with Met-Cam to build that train?

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:49 pm

No, Cammell-Laird worked with Metropolitain and the Union Car Co.

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:05 am

Zackybong1 wrote:No, Cammell-Laird worked with Metropolitain and the Union Car Co.

Oh, then how come only in the VECTIS< the builder is named as Met-Cam Laird, but not for others since Laird also helped?

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:30 pm

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:31 pm

Because the VETCIS type build was started in 1920, but Cammell-Laird merged with Metro-Vickers in 1929. After this the main Metro-Cammell Ltd brand name was formed and used.