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Well. I got on the 23:20 Portsmouth harbour to Eastleigh service, at Portsmouth Harbour, around about 23:00.
Sat quietly up the front with all the windows open until about 23:10 when the guard came storming up the platform shouting about how he wasnt taking the train, because they had smashed up first class already.
The driver sighed while the guard called the police.
The kids then ran up and down the train and platform, throwing light bulbs at each other, then the police turned up :lol:
16 kids all lined up along the edge of platform 4 being read the riot act by 6 coppers, including a sergant :lol:
After a search of the train and station for the Afro Caribean youth that everybody reported as the culprit, the train was examined by the police, and the guard gave a statement about what he'd seen {same as the rest of us, first class window slid down, light bulbs were ejected from it at high speed, and had smashed against another unit}.
At 23:35, the damaged coach was locked out, and the coach numbers written down, before the guard then agreed to take the train.
We departed Portsmouth harbour, 18'late at 23:38, and by the time we got to Hilsea, an off duty guard came up, {just before an afro caribean youth went running down the train}, saying the had just looked out the other driving trailor, because an afro caribean had smashed it up.
I convinced the guard to take the train on to Cosham, saying that he'd get a more rapid police response because the police station was 5 minutes walk away {i kept quiet about the fact that i also wanted to get off their :lol: }
I've never known a guard call the police twice to the same service, and i've never heard reports of an afro caribean youth swinging from the fluescent lighting tubes either!
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Not kids surely? :wink: :)
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i was brought up to respect other people's property and not to damage stuff that isn't mine. what is the problem with some of these kids? i fear that most of my jobs when i join the police will be to vandalism by so called "young adults"
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Well thats the government for you....Too Soft !!! No Discipline !!! so kids, youth's get away with murder. You've only got to look around...graffiti, broken glass, smashed phone boxes, bus shelters, under 10's on the street after 10 the list goes on....

....and when you do phone the police they reply " there's nothing we can do" and yet you pay for the police within your council tax a hefty £1000 +

It all stinks !!! :roll:

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Oh yeah. I reported 2 kids wandering onto a 100mph line, by dialing 999 and got told to take it up with the BTP or phone the local police station!
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What can you do eh ? People just don't take the hint to keep thier nose of out things that don't somethings...
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buffy500 wrote:What can you do eh ? People just don't take the hint to keep thier nose of out things that don't somethings...
Dave, you seem to be mumberling, care to expand on that sentence?
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No not really, not for you anyway.
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and i've never heard reports of an afro caribean youth swinging from the fluescent lighting tubes either!
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Just saying to Ed, that restored abit of faith in the police, 6 cops turned up looking like they were gonna kick arse and ask questions later.
The sergant looked like Peter Peddleston :lol: {no offence to Pete}
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They created a law about 2 years ago to make the parents take responsability for their brats.

So far they have only made 1 arrest.

I'd stop them breeding any more if I had my way.
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ianmacmillan wrote:They created a law about 2 years ago to make the parents take responsability for their brats.

So far they have only made 1 arrest.

I'd stop them breeding any more if I had my way.
Me too.
Its not so funny when 'your little Johnny' starts costing you money.

Sometimes parents have either no idea or no interest in what thier litte kids are doing.

What fun we had taking drunk teenagers home in HP99 and waking mum or dad up at 12:30 on a Saturday morning, not sure they thought it was so funny then tbh.
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We can't have it both ways ....

People have been banging on for years about shaking off the nanny state and social engineering by governments. They wanted choice and not to be told what to do.

Percy Sugden in Coronation Street had a great line once which stuck in my mind, 'The trouble with young people today is they don't know where they stand'.

The only difference between parents and kids today is that they havn't a clue as to what's expected off them, only what they shouldn't do.

The choices confronting parents today were enjoyed by only a few many years ago. Most had their lives mapped out for them from birth. That's all changed and I believe that many people simply cannot cope with it.

The young, parents and particularly the elderly are bewildered by much of it :-?
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johndibben wrote:
The choices confronting parents today were enjoyed by only a few many years ago. Most had their lives mapped out for them from birth. That's all changed and I believe that many people simply cannot cope with it.

The young, parents and particularly the elderly are bewildered by much of it :-?
Hit the nail on the head there I believe, fully agreed

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I see the railways are seen as the default target by all the local nutters, after the weekend i've had.....
Caught the train home from London to Portsmouth, and everything was going ok until the station before Haslemere {Milford?} the whole area is right out in the countryside, on a tall hill.
were just pulling away and the signal made an emergency call to the driver, to stop immediatly and await further instructions.
After stopping in the station again, the driver contacted the signalman, who told him that he had just been informed of a possible obstruction on the line ahead. The driver on the last 'up'service {we were a 'down' service} thought he saw something on our track and alerted the signalman.
We proceeded with caution {about 15 mph} from the station, towards Haslemere. We got about 1 mile up the road, rounded a blind bend, and found a tree branch, 6 inches thick and 15 feet long, layed arcoss our line!
Theres been hardly any breeze in the area for the past fortnight, and by the look of the branhc on the track, it hadnt fallen off naturally!
Earlier that day, just the other side of Haslemere, some guy not only decided he was going to end it all, but he decided to hide behind a bush, and when the train came close enough, he dived head first off an embankment towards the wheels!
Then when i got back to Fratton, the train arrived with more of mummy's little darlings throwing the majority of the train out the window, and the female guard screaming and shouting about calling the police :roll:
Then i walked into work this morning, helped fix the damage to the unit that the jumper hit {he knocked a shoe arm off} and made sure the unit was cleaned properly {We still have to work on those units, and in those pits}, before being asked to paint over some graffiti.
When i looked at the graffiti, it was .! It was just swiggles with a spray can, couldnt make out anything, the short that annoys more than it impresses {i know all graffiti normally annyos more than it impresses anyway}
So, the country is out of control, you're right Jon. They let the nutters on the railway line, and the vandals on the trains!
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