Steam Effects

BobLatimer · Post by **BobLatimer** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:48 am

There's a new upload at Trainsim.com that replaces the default steam effects for steam locos. It looks quite good.

nickaxon · Post by **nickaxon** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:36 pm

Has anyone tried this yet?

Nick.

1crick14a · Post by **1crick14a** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:58 pm

Yup

Think it's a been made to light if that's the right word needs to be a made
a bit more dense with the volume of steam/smoke coming out of a chimney you would not be able to see through it..........R

isambardkingdombrunel · Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:10 pm

I have,seemed ok to me.But i will bow to Rick's superior knowledge of the subject.

IKB.

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:30 am

Not worth getting then? I sometimes think the default smoke emissions are not dense enough, esp when a train is pulling hard - say starting away with a heavy load.

pdeee · Post by **pdeee** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:03 am

I agree with Richard, just a bit on the thin side and well worth a try........

Pat.

1crick14a · Post by **1crick14a** » Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:39 am

You should give it a try it is certainly an improvement on the default
smoke, only really needs small adjustment, there is as I have said more of this to come, now it has been made public, if the fores and against are taken on board it will be one hell of an improvement..............R

DrkAngel · Post by **DrkAngel** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 7:35 am

It is an improvement on the original, but it does need a little more tweeking.

From what I have been running the last few days it does wonders

nickaxon · Post by **nickaxon** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:06 am

Thanks for responses guys. I've tried it myself now - Seems a little better but "not a lot" as Mr Daniels might say. Will await further developments from TrainArtisan etc.

Regards, Nick.

47522 · Post by **47522** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:10 am

I think its great!
Theres a great fluffy effect!
Also the smoke dose not just disappear like the default one, it fades away, no pop off effect!
Well worth getting!
I have some shots of it if you'd like to see them?

pdeee · Post by **pdeee** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:26 am

I think we have to be careful here, back in the first half of the last century, black smoke or safety valve lifting in a station was an offence and looking at old photographs, and using my fast failing memory, it was more normal just to have a light mixture of steam and smoke coming out of the chimney, when a train was up to running speed. With the fire white hot it would just be steam and clear fumes coming out of the chimney, and a puff of smoke as the fireman placed coal around the box, little and often.
I am sure a number of present day Steam Specials, try to make black smoke to impress the photographers and give a wrong impression of what steam was actually like, looking at pictures of trains coming over Shap summit, just a trace out of the chimney and the safety valves lifted and the fire bouncing in the firebox, with the extra draft from of heavy working.
Unfortunately late BR steam days saw, run down engines, very poor coal or dross, often square or round briquettes and a shortage of experienced footplate staff, which again gave a false picture as to what steam looked like in its heyday.
The more I use this new version the more I like it.

Pat.

1crick14a · Post by **1crick14a** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:05 pm

Well said Pat, that's exactly how it was, black smoke was not looked at kindly by BR Inspectors.

I emailed the Chap who changed this asking if he would be prepared to make it slightly more dense in texture, he said no, so we will have to wait to see if others make any changes that will make it just that bit more real.

This can also be applied to Diesel exhaust if any wizzer is inclined to have
a go at it.............R

E428ID · Post by **E428ID** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:18 pm

Hello
I'm the creator of the smoke mod.
Rick, please, don't say what's not true... I never told I don't want to change the smoke, and I have the emails to prove that; if it will be necessary I'll publish them! In my first email I asked you if you did try it with the different smoke colors and behaviour that MSTS allows, and I told you that I made a compromise between the two conditions.
If you like it and want to make constructive comments, you are welcome, and i'll make what it's possible to make it better; if you don't like and have constructive comments it I'll do the same; if you don't like me, i can't do anything about that, but please tell the facts as they are...

Niels Picciotto

1crick14a · Post by **1crick14a** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:01 pm

Sorry Niels but I took your reply as a straight NO Thats how I read it anyway. I tried to put you on the right track but you said other Italians were helping you and it seemed to indicate you were not interested, so that was it with me, one chance and then I forget about it OK.........R

E428ID · Post by **E428ID** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:22 pm

Ok, we did misunderstand our respective messages... I'll see what i can do with the smoke... Any suggestion is welcome.

Niels