TSection 42

[Easilyconfused]

I still have a whole bundle of tsection.dat files from versions 27 to 38 that I can provide to people. All downloaded from here.

Since Trainstore facilitates assigning dedicated tsection.dat files to routes I do think we are over thinking a bit here. Just have them all in the library and then let people choose the recommended one for their route.

<edit> I see my post crossed over with Ian's.

[markh5682]

For anyone interested, Tsection 38 is still available from here...........

http://www.activitysimulatorworld.net/L ... on.dat.htm

[NiallGray]

I disagree with the use of TS38 as the UK standard.
Instead we should use TS42 with the clearance distance on the 10 degree points restored to their original value.

Very good point. Were the 10d points the only one that was changed? If so, I think I'll be leaning towards a 42UK and 42USA option.

[rufuskins]

Very good point. Were the 10d points the only one that was changed? If so, I think I'll be leaning towards a 42UK and 42USA option.

Might as well as clothing sizes are different, and don't forget the difference in US and UK gallons!

I was going to make other comments but moderators may not have approved a reference to particular underwear sizing!

Alec

[armchairengo]

Too many standards are as bad as no standards.

[gswindale]

which is true; but why change a standard when it has worked for years without consultation?

Surely as the problem was only found 38 versions in and that clearly it wasn't a problem for the vast majority; it should have been the minority that adapted to meet the standard rather than the standard being amended to suit the minority?

[douglee]

Hi Geoff,
Just to clarify. It is not t38 that has the problem. It was the arbitrary changes made it t40 then fiddled with in t41 that is the problem.

it should have been the minority that adapted

Of course you are right but the owners of the files have the power and they are the minority. Sound familliar?

Good luck
Doug

[rufuskins]

Bearing in mind all the apparent problems with "T" files, I would suggest that there is good reason to sit down with a good old cup of TEA!

Alec

[tonyhap]

In order to give everyone complete information before a decision is made as to what extra Tsection.dat this website might host, I reckon the following twelve changes could be made in the body of V42 to create a V42UK. These twelve points would then have CollisionDist values identical to what they are in V38.

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72	A1tPnt10dLft		from 35 to 26
73	A1tPnt10dRgt		from 35 to 26
216	A1tPnt10dRgtMnl		from 35 to 26
218	A1tPnt10dRgtMnl		from 35 to 26
70	A1tPnt5dLft		from 85 to 52
71	A1tPnt5dRgt		from 85 to 52
219	A1tPnt5dLftMnl		from 85 to 52
220	A1tPnt5dLftMnl		from 85 to 52
68	A1tPnt2_5dLft		from 145 to 104
69	A1tPnt2_5dRgt		from 145 to 104
223	A1tPnt2_5dLftMnl		from 145 to 104
224	A1tPnt2_5dLftMnl		from 145 to 104

Regards,
Chris

[terrycunliffe]

In order to give everyone complete information before a decision is made as to what extra Tsection.dat this website might host, I reckon the following twelve changes could be made in the body of V42 to create a V42UK. These twelve points would then have CollisionDist values identical to what they are in V38.

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72	A1tPnt10dLft		from 35 to 26
73	A1tPnt10dRgt		from 35 to 26
216	A1tPnt10dRgtMnl		from 35 to 26
218	A1tPnt10dRgtMnl		from 35 to 26
70	A1tPnt5dLft		from 85 to 52
71	A1tPnt5dRgt		from 85 to 52
219	A1tPnt5dLftMnl		from 85 to 52
220	A1tPnt5dLftMnl		from 85 to 52
68	A1tPnt2_5dLft		from 145 to 104
69	A1tPnt2_5dRgt		from 145 to 104
223	A1tPnt2_5dLftMnl		from 145 to 104
224	A1tPnt2_5dLftMnl		from 145 to 104

Regards,
Chris

Well, I for one vote that "we go for it"

[systema]

I haven't got the time, nor inclination to test out the new version, the NWE route is too large and complex for that.
Unless the newer version's points clearance distance is put back to the values found in build 38, then it is that build that must be used with my route.

The same applies to MidEast Plus. In fact some of the activities will not work with a build later than 38. A modified 42UK would be OK.

MEP is intended to be run as a Mini route and this is one of the reasons- the mini route version will contain tsection build 38.

Mick Clarke

[Easilyconfused]

I have had conversations with Pete (site admin). He has created a new library section under "Utilities" > "T Sections" when we can upload all the previous versions. I have most of them from 25 through 38 at my disposal. Then people can choose their own rather than only having the "current" version on the front page.

Waiting to hear back from Glyn about this since I am not sure of the agreements about him being the one to upload here.

[phill70]

Go for it John, no problem at all.

[Easilyconfused]

Missed your call earlier Glyn when I was blasting up the A34 on the way home (see the Facebook picture you have access to from Google Lattitude). Still trying to figure out the best way to do it since there are a couple of options.

I could upload each separately with a readme copied from the current quick pick or I could upload 1 zip file with all of them in it and a readme.

Benefits of the 2nd option : 1 file for all the versions so easier to download for non-premium members & it stops the Railworks fans whinging that MSTS downloads are pushing the Railworks downloads off the front page since there are about 10 of the files with me. It has happened before when a MSTS route in spanned zip format was uploaded and bumped 6 Rail Simulator files to the bottom of the page. Same thing happened when I put the EB patches up with Ken's permission - people complained that they swamped the front page and pushed some Rail Simulator reskins off the page within hours of them being released for download.

Benefits of the first option : each file is self contained and would not need renaming.

[terrycunliffe]

I don't think that there is any need to upload any version earlier than build 38. Just label that as the "last stable version for UK routes"