S&D

[jimmyladd]

Clive,

Have just downloaded your route and have managed a DMU trip from Bath up to Evercreech. What a route! The scenery is stunning and I can't wait to try out a kettle and 6. This is up there amongst the best UK routes both freeware and commercial and probably the most challenging to drive since Bala.

Well done and thanks for sharing your efforts with us.

Chris

If you look in the S&D 7F download ID 25455 there is a folder called common.sound. Copy that folder and drop it in your trainset folder so it complains about over writing the folder common.sound. Allow it to do it and off you go.

[jimmyladd]

Evilly difficult new act for the route just about to be completed taking Milk to Bath...sounds simple enough doesn't it? I thought so too when I started making it!

[casperdog]

Hi all,
Now the initial rush seems to be quietening down I thought i would say thankyou to all the people who have downloaded the route and the comments made. Bit embarrassing but nice.

I would like to thank all of the scenery model makers who upload to here or other sites and made making this route that little bit easier. A lot of it is my own but without their contributions, the route would be a long way from completion.I've included that thanks in the read me's and I hope I didn't miss anyone.

For those struggling with those climbs a quote from an email from a good friend who actually drove on the route:

"O yes the Mendip's would sort the men from the boy's out ,it certainly did in the real world ,I heard of two firemen had to be carried off the footplate ,,but i would think both situation's they would have been having a ruff trip ,(ie) a bit low in the psi department ."

Now busy with a lot of help, trying to make those activities a bit more user friendly towards hopefully a DVD version.

Thanks
Clive

[chrisiveson]

Found this:
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 39&t=53253
Who would have thought that nearly five years later the dream came true?
When Peter Smith and Peter Guy assisted by firemen Aubrey Punter and Ron Hyde took the last "Pines" over the S&D, "Evening Star" on 8th. September 1962, they broke all records by hauling single handed 426 tons

a gesture to the authorities to show that much of the double heading in the final years had been a deliberate (but unnecessary) plan to keep costs high as part of their excuse to re-route the train.

That record could only ever be beaten on MSTS, anyone up for it?
( 12 bogies should do it, BSK, CK, SO, BSK, BSK, SK, SK, SO, RF, SO, CK and BCK )

Chris.

[tads1970]

A big thank's to Clive and all involved in making this route,three guesses what I'm downloading this afternoon before work tomorrow.After reading through this thread and all the praise and nice comment's I'm really looking forward to it.Well Done.

Daz

[rufuskins]

Have nearly completed checks for the newly installed SDJR, for which I too would like to add my thanks.

My only query - relatively minor - is that when checking the route with Route Riter it came up with the following message:-

"ukfs_ic_219m2_5d71.s appears to be a Track or Road section being used as a Static shape"

I have come across this at least once before, but it never seemed to have any effect on the operation of that route. Does this message have any significant meaning, or does it really mean that it has been used as a static shape rather than as part of the route track system?

Alec

PS Will create a Mini Route once the checks are complete.

[casperdog]

Hi Alec

is that when checking the route with Route Riter it came up with the following message:-
"ukfs_ic_219m2_5d71.s appears to be a Track or Road section being used as a Static shape"
Alec
PS Will create a Mini Route once the checks are complete.

That 'fault' came and i never got to the bottom of it. using RR got a list of shapes used. It was only used 3 times, tracked them down and they were where they should be i.e track sections.. No TDB errors and i could delete them without getting any dreaded messages plus test acts proved the paths were ok through the points. So ignored.
cheers
clive

[ianmacmillan]

One of the problems with MSTS is that when a loco is placed in a building, the smoke passes through the roof.
The way round this is to place a road section in the roof.

Smoke does not pass through a road section.

One of the loco or goods sheds on the route probably uses this trick.

The error should be ignored.

[photons66]

Fantastic route, Clive. Regarding the Pines Express, on its journey northbound, would it have got a change of loco en route and what would it have usually been?

[NiallGray]

One of the problems with MSTS is that when a loco is placed in a building, the smoke passes through the roof.
The way round this is to place a road section in the roof.

Smoke does not pass through a road section.

One of the loco or goods sheds on the route probably uses this trick.

The error should be ignored.

Ian, does that work with rain/snow by any chance?

[casperdog]

Hi

Fantastic route, Clive. Regarding the Pines Express, on its journey northbound, would it have got a change of loco en route and what would it have usually been?

Have a look at this. loads of info and another link at the bottom of the page
http://semaphore.avonvalleyrailway.org/ ... nes40.html
cheers
clive

[choccy]

The north bound Pines Express would have a pilot loco attached at Evercreech Junction and then a complete change of motive power at Bath GP before heading off over Midland metals.

Mark

[chrisiveson]

Fantastic route, Clive. Regarding the Pines Express, on its journey northbound, would it have got a change of loco en route and what would it have usually been?

Not until it gets to Bath, just the addition of a pilot at Evercreech Jcn. as explained in the above post.
In my youth I spent my holidays with my parents in Bath and spent many a happy hour at GP, or the gassworks where my uncle worked.
( yes, I am that old )
I seem to remember it was usually a Jubilee that took the Pines north from Bath, but could be a rebuilt Patriot or Black Five.
In the Summer Bath shed would play host to LMR, SR and standard classes of loco, even an LNER B1 made it there, but didn't venture onto the S&D.
8F's were tried on the S&D but weren't as successful as the fowler 7F's, WD class 2-8-0's were also tried but had problems with braking.
The "Nines" would have been the big breakthrough had it not been the intervention of the Western Region as they were more than capable of handling express trains over the S&D single handed.

Chris.

[photons66]

That's great, thanks Chris, Mark and Clive.

[chrisiveson]

Almost forgot the dear old Western region, the humble "Jinty" gave way to a pannier tank for shunting the goods yard at Bath.
It would also bank heavy freight trains up to Windsor Hill tunnel before returning to shunting duties.

Chris.