WHAT ARE OTHER MSTS SIMMERS WORKING ON

[douglee]

Hi Rob,

Hi Guys, here is a problem for you. I have been trying to hand over my train to a relief loco due to lack of watering holes on either Great Eastern or LTSR. I unhitch my initial loco from the consist go to a spur and connect to the relief loco that has been waiting there and switch control to that, then unhitch and drive the relief away to connect to the consist. However, when I check the water level in the relief loco it stands at 0.01 gal in the tank which isn't going to get me very much further to my destination.

I am using the ultimate (and final) BIN 1.8xxx btw.

Any ideas please.

I did a quick test on this.

500Gal water 50% Coal in loco at changeover, change to Drivable relief loco, 0.01Gal water 50% Coal on F5 twice, display.
However the relief loco behaved as normal filling the Boiler when needed and stoking the Fire.

This was not exhaustive but it is possible it is as you said in the e-Mail to me like the 0MPH speed indicator, it is something that was never envisaged in the original MSTS. In short we are too clever for them.

It will need further testing but it works. Start your test act at the change over. with minimal water and Coal to save running the whole act.

Can not help with the odd engine file but R-R does loads of Bulk changing tasks, could be that.

Good luck
Doug

[jbilton]

Hi
I seem to remember this is a fault of the bin patch .... not sure if a solution was found.

Cheers
Jon

Edit .... not sure whether the water level only concerns on manual fireman.

[rojol]

I don't know much about steam; however if you try running with the relief loco on it's own, does it have a full tank to start with?

It appears that when you place a consist on the route MSTS assumes it aint goin nowhere so doesn't put any water in the tank. But is there a way round it?

[rojol]

I did a quick test on this.

500Gal water 50% Coal in loco at changeover, change to Drivable relief loco, 0.01Gal water 50% Coal on F5 twice, display.
However the relief loco behaved as normal filling the Boiler when needed and stoking the Fire.

This was not exhaustive but it is possible it is as you said in the e-Mail to me like the 0MPH speed indicator, it is something that was never envisaged in the original MSTS. In short we are too clever for them.

It will need further testing but it works. Start your test act at the change over. with minimal water and Coal to save running the whole act.

Can not help with the odd engine file but R-R does loads of Bulk changing tasks, could be that.

Good luck
Doug

Yes, the fireman does still keep stoking and the train will run on what water is has in the boiler. However, once that runs out it's big bang time in reality. In MSTS its just an error message that you have run out of water. I wonder how often that did happen in reality. Apparently it's only the water in the boiler that keeps everything cool enough to stop all the metal melting that supports all the boilers internal parts.

So it seems I need to find a suitable Tender loco that will do the distance and not be out of place on both GE and LTSR.

[michaelhendle]

How about a WD Austerity there were some at shed code 33 Tilbury,I reckon thay would have had a big enough tender,I've just had another look at Tilbury and there were some J 39's there as well,so I think they would also be suitable for both routes.

Stratford had some 76XXX 4MT Loco's,there are some included in Dave's excellent BR Standards Pack.

There are some WD Austerities in the Library and 2 J39's

[rojol]

Thanks for that Michael.

I tried the 280WD but found it wouldnt run on the same path as used for the B1 in certain places. Very strange. However, I have re-written the path and it does the job admirably with water and coal a plenty to do both the out and back in one hit.

I also tried a 4MT tender loco but it didn't even make it up the incline of the Ilford flyover. I know I could avoid going over it but if id didn't make that I doubt it would have made the incline between Harold Wood and Shenfiled either.

I havent looked at the J39 or 5MT yet but seeing as the 280WD does the job I will stick with it. It drives quite nicely too as long as its forwards. It may be my imagination but it doesn't seem to like going tender first. Yes, the tender was at the right end and the right way round lol.

Now for the AI.

[michaelhendle]

Hi Rojol,
I've had a look at both Stratford and Tilbury sheds and neither of them had Standard 5s allocated to them,Stratford had B1,which was the LNER equivalent to a Standard 5

[rufuskins]

After a weekend of trying to sort out where I am on my FG DMU Project I have established a method of approach, which can lead to boredom when carrying out checking. But when I feel that then I can move onto driving trains, planning my fictional route, etc.

Therefore the status can be simply illustrated by the following screenshot:-



Alec

PS All of my plans for FG DMU are fluid to say the least as uploads by others make some of my work either superfluous or just not good enough - certainly for upload!

[rufuskins]

Here's an update of my FG DMU Project



Alec

[rufuskins]

Here's a detailed list of my FG DMU project

Class 100
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists created
Class 101
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- One off Caledonian Blue to be created
- departmental sets (Ultra Sonic Test Train) in four separate liveries completed but to be revised/tweaked as noted above
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists to be created
Class 102
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists created
Class 103
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- Sandite DTCL car created but currently in abeyance
- player, AI(#) and DIT($) consists to be created
Class 104
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists created
Class 105
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists to be created
Class 107
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- player, AI(#) and DIT($) consists to be created
Class 108
– passenger sets and liveries have been researched
– new model created by "Twomanydjs"
– departmental sets currently being researched
Class 109
– personal trainset created based on existing models
– departmental set could be created
Class 110
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- player, AI(#) and DIT($) consists to be created
Class 111
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- player, AI(#) and DIT($) consists created
Class 112
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- player, AI(#) and DIT($) consists created
Class 113
- no model currently available
- could be created from Class 105 plus the addition of head code box to roof
Class 114
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- player, AI(#) and DIT($) consists created
Class 115
- passenger sets and liveries have been researched
- departmental sets to be researched
Class 116
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists to be created
- departmental to be created
Class 117
- passenger sets and liveries have been researched
- departmental sets to be researched
Class 118
- passenger sets and liveries have been researched
- recent uploads by Jon Bilton to be reviewed with what other uploads are available
- departmental sets to be researched
Class 119
- personal trainset started
- no departmental use
Class 120
- personal trainset started
- parcel sets to be researched
Class 121
- personal trainset started
- departmental sets currently being researched
Class 122
- personal trainset started
- departmental including parcel use as Class 131 to be researched
Class 123
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists to be created
Class 124
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- player, AI(#) and DIT($) consists to be created
- 4 and 5 car sets in BR Blue Grey created and awaiting items noted above
- hybrid consists for Class123/124 sets created awaiting items noted above
Class 125
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists created
Class 126
- personal trainset being developed based on available models
- additional liveries/sets to be created for upload to UKTS
Class 127
- liveries and sets to be researched
- parcel sets to be researched
Class 128
- liveries and sets to be researched
Class 129
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- Player, AI(#) and DIT ($) consists created
Class 130
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists created
Class 131
- refer to Class 122
Derby Lightweights
- personal trainset to be developed based upon available models
Met Cam Lightweights
– personal trainset revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] and awaiting final RR checks
- Player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists created

Please note that cabview download is UKTS 20620 and not UKTS21620!

Alec

[rufuskins]

Yet another update after a relatively productive few days

Status Report on FG DMU Project @ 06 March 2012

Class 100, 102, 103, 104, 106, 107, 110, 111, 112, 114, 123, 125, 129, 130 and MCLW
– awaiting final RR checks
Class 101
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] including departmentals
- Caledonian Blue set to be created
- player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists to be created
Class 105
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds] including departmentals
- player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists to be created
Class 108
– passenger sets and liveries have been researched
– new model created by "Twomanydjs"
– departmental sets currently being researched
Class 109
– personal trainset created based on existing models
– departmental set could be created
- consists to be revised
Class 113
- no model currently available
- could be created from Class 105 plus the addition of head code box to roof
Class 115
- passenger sets and liveries have been researched
- departmental sets to be researched
Class 116
- personal trainset started to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
- player, AI (#) and DIT ($) consists to be created
- departmentals in progress
Class 117
- passenger sets and liveries have been researched
- departmental sets to be researched
Class 118
- passenger sets and liveries have been researched
- recent uploads by Jon Bilton to be reviewed with what other uploads are available
- departmental sets to be researched
Class 119
- personal trainset complete except for final tweak to WR BR Blue Grey set
- consists in progress
Class 120
- personal trainset started
- parcel sets to be researched
Class 121
- personal trainset started
- departmental sets researched
Class 122
- personal trainset started
- departmental including parcel use as Class 131 researched
Class 124
- personal trainset to be revised/tweaked to suit alternative [cabview] and [sounds]
Class 123/124 Hybrid
- to be progressed following completion of Class 123 and 124
Class 126 and Swindon IC
- personal trainset being developed based on available models
Class 127
- personal trainset to be developed based on available Class 117 models
- parcel sets to be developed
Class 128
- personal trainset being developed based on available models
Class 131
- refer to Class 122
Derby Lightweights
- personal trainset to be developed based upon available models

Outstanding major actions are (a) the "infamous" Class 113 as I am unable to add in the headcode box, and (b) using the Class 117 trainset to create the Class 127 trainset - essentially the 127 has more passenger accomodation with a reduced guard's compartment.

In the first instance I intend to complete the 119s, tweak the 124s as well as the 105s and 116s and then the 101s - the latter three classes involve a lot of trainsets and consists!!!

Alec

[rufuskins]

Have now completed the tweaks, etc. to the 119s and 124s, and they will join the others for a Route Riter checking session - need to set aside a goodly amount of time -, including AI(#) and DIT($) creation and jpg shots for ConBuilder, etc.

I expect that some things will have slipped through despite my best efforts. Some basic VBA routines have ensured that the cab views and sounds should be correct. I am looking to make a VBA routine to check the length of file names, etc. - I've been caught out on several occasions where critical ones have exceeded the magical 30 characters!!

I am now concentrating on 105s and 116s, including some additional 116 sets to reflect the circa 1983 renumbering! I have put the 101 units in their respective sets, and started on consist amendments. May try the Caledonian Blue 101 set creation as a change from name changes, etc.

Alec

PS I think an early night is called for, otherwise I won't have wound down sufficiently to sleep - all too often my mind is a whirl of train sets, consists and ACE files when I get to bed!!!!!

[rufuskins]

To continue with the bore fest I managed to finalise my Class 101 Trainsets this lunch time as follows:-



This comprises a total off 77 trainsets with corresponding consists. When I have sorted out the Caledonian Blue set this will become 78!

Have you ever wondered whether you should have started something once it becomes a behemoth!

Alec

[SDtrains]

To continue with the bore fest

Nay, Nay. You are in the wrong simulator if you feel that way!

Actually, I quite like having a variety of DMUs. You could do a fashion festival trainspotting activity with the sheer variety, 'No two colours the same'.

Inspiration enough for a new Tweet thread.


Regards

[Teddybear999]

Why oh why can I not finish my first route? It's been 5 years now and I've still yet to finish one. I start of with all thew enthusiasm of a child on xmas morning. But before long I'm unhappy with the way it's going and have to start again. Am I the only one, does any one else have the same trouble.

Mick