NVIDIA Geforce 4 64Mb Graphics Card

brownairwolf · Post by **brownairwolf** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:50 pm

Hey all.
When i got my 64Mb graphics card i thought wopee, better graphics for msts, but alas msts seems to be the only one of my games that does not like the graphics card. Are there any known issues with my graphics card and or fixes?
Many Thanks

ForburyLion · Post by **ForburyLion** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:21 pm

I've got the same graphics card..... I think the problem lies with MSTS and not the hardware.

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:37 pm

Judging by the amount of RAM i take it that ur GeForce 4 is from the MX range. No offence but ive said over the past 2 months about a dozen times that the MX Geforce cards are not as good as they make out. They are simply old graphics card technology run at faster speeds. Not long after the Gf4 MX cards came out, people quickly realised that they performed no better than the top range Gf2 cards. Thus getting even a Gf3 would be better off than buying a Gf4-MX card.

BTW, what is it that uve tried to do with MSTS, that u are disappointed with, graphically? Simply putting in a new card and starting a game wont make any difference. Have u altered any settings? have u switched on an effects that the graphics card does? The ability to run MSTS on a high spec machine doesnt really give the advantage of better graphics. Instead it allows for more scenery to be shown at once; higher FPS rates and less stuttering; higher ingame display resolutions; more texture and scenery effects like FSAA and Anisotrophic Filtering.

mikesimpson · Post by **mikesimpson** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:24 pm

I agree with LucaZone, if your card is the Geforce 4 MX then it is only a Geforce 2 on steroids.

I got a Geforce 4 Ti4200 with 64 meg ram, and the difference over the Geforce 2 I had earlier is enormous. Running the 3DMark 2001se benchmark program, my rating went from around 1250 up to 7400.

You should also make sure you have the latest Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia site, the ones on the CD with the card are usually well out of date.

trainfanaticuk · Post by **trainfanaticuk** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:48 pm

yes 3rd december drivers out now.

hey a geforce 2 mx 400 + tv-out is excellent for msts. too good if i must say. well thats from a creative voodoo banshee 16mb card lol

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 10:31 pm

no graphics card is too good! Check out the comparison below, of data taken off the nvidia site of the 2 graphics card specs::

GeForce4 MX :: 256-bit DDR Color | 1000 Million Polys/sec | 5.3GB/S bandwidth

GeForce2 GTS :: 128-bit DDR Colour | 800 Million Polys/sec | 5.3GB/s bandwidth

and a Geforce2 MX 400 :: 64-bit DDR Colour | 800 Million Polys/sec | 2.7GB/s bandwidth
(u sure u think this card is any good with MSTS?)

My card just about does MSTS as max
Geforce3 Ti500 :: 256-bit-bit DDR Colour | 3840 Million AntiAliased Polys/sec | 8.0GB/Sec bandwidth

and just to show, this is the top nVidia card spec ::
Geforce4 Ti4600 :: 256-bit-bit DDR Colour | 4800 Million AntiAliased Polys/sec | 10.4GB/Sec. bandwidth

eddief · Post by **eddief** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:51 pm

Just for the record I have this same graphics card and I have no problems with it at all, its made playing MSTS far more enjoyable

. Mind you this is probably because I have downloaded the latest drivers (my bro says the drivers that come with Windows XP gave him problems with Micro$oft games and it is because the Micro$oft drivers are not as good as the nvidia drivers).

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:55 pm

well obviously...MS dont make ur graphics card, nVidia do!

41.71 are the latest

scoop · Post by **scoop** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 12:37 am

Ive got a 4600TI with the latest beta drivers (Official Nvidia Beta tester) and it looks superb although it still slows down in places.
Anyhow the geforce FX will be out soon, so I will be open to offers on my current card soon, Creative Geforce 4600TI.
Regards
Scoop

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 9:06 am

scoop wrote:geforce FX will be out soon

Hmmm...yes. One to watch.

brownairwolf · Post by **brownairwolf** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 11:07 am

Thanks for the reply guys.
The problem that i have is that the msts menu screen does not fill the whole screen ie black bands at the sides and bits cut off at top and bottom (change the settings i hear you cry) done that too, to no avail. Also when i go into the advanced video settings the screen flickers like crazy.
I do have the new drivers for the card but there are some specifically for win2000/xp ( i run 2000) which i have not installed yet. Is it worth installing these when all my other games are working brilliantly (JamesBond Nightfire, Battlefield 1942 etc).
Many thanks.

brownairwolf · Post by **brownairwolf** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 11:09 am

Oh yes i forgot to say i have the drivers that came out on the 3/12/02 from their website.
Many Thanks again.

scefhwil · Post by **scefhwil** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 10:10 pm

LucaZone wrote:no graphics card is too good! Check out the comparison below, of data taken off the nvidia site of the 2 graphics card specs::

GeForce4 MX :: 256-bit DDR Color | 1000 Million Polys/sec | 5.3GB/S bandwidth

GeForce2 GTS :: 128-bit DDR Colour | 800 Million Polys/sec | 5.3GB/s bandwidth

and a Geforce2 MX 400 :: 64-bit DDR Colour | 800 Million Polys/sec | 2.7GB/s bandwidth
(u sure u think this card is any good with MSTS?)

My card just about does MSTS as max
Geforce3 Ti500 :: 256-bit-bit DDR Colour | 3840 Million AntiAliased Polys/sec | 8.0GB/Sec bandwidth

and just to show, this is the top nVidia card spec ::
Geforce4 Ti4600 :: 256-bit-bit DDR Colour | 4800 Million AntiAliased Polys/sec | 10.4GB/Sec. bandwidth

LucaZone,

You refer to Geforce3 Ti500. I've looked around for some of these and have found Gainward Ti500's still available, but they are detailed as using the Ti-200 Chipset. Is this GPU you referred to?

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 10:35 pm

GeForce3 Ti500 is a faster card than the Ti200. Or it wouldnt be called the Ti500. Its the best Geforce3 card around. I got mine from MSI.

Its a different chipset to the 200, but maybe Gainwind just ramp up the 200 and call it the 500. I know mine from MSI is way faster than the Ti200.

scefhwil · Post by **scefhwil** » Sat Dec 21, 2002 12:31 am