Highworth - keeping the route alive.

[abclare]

Running from Train Store Activities 22 & 24 Ammunition Train from foward view the view is very low nearly on the track is it possible to raise this please ???

[douglee]

Hi Art,
As Supplied the Cabview is a version of the Manor Cab and appears to tilt upwards. This is due to the image used for the view and is necessary for the correct appearance. Raising the view only throws everything out.

The only improvement that can be made is the position of the view forwards. It is set at the center of the loco and would benefit from moving back to -6.5, the actual cab position, so that when looking left or right from the Cabview the exterior is right.

Good luck
Doug

[abclare]

Hi Again Doug.
Is that easy for ME to do as i find it difficult to drive from that low??

[douglee]

Hi Art,
Changing the Forward,Rearward position of the Cabview will not help.
Maybe drive Headout. Up/Down keyboard arrows.

If you really want to play with the view position.

HW_Gwr2301 is the loco Folder in Trainset.

Open the loco folder
Open the Cabview Folder
Open the Cabview file GWR2301.cvf

Tr_CabViewFile (
CabViewType ( 3 )
CabViewFile ( "..\\..\\HW_common.cab\\gwr\\cabview\\cabfront.ace" )
CabViewWindow ( 402 0 300 400 )
CabViewWindowFile ( "..\\..\\HW_common.cab\\gwr\\cabview\\AcWndFrn.ace" )
Position ( 1 1 0 )
Direction ( 10 -19 -5 )
CabViewFile ( "..\\..\\HW_common.cab\\gwr\\cabview\\cableft.ace" )
CabViewWindow ( 0 0 640 480 )

The line in red is the one to change. There is a space between each value. Value is meters.
(
Ist value: left/right minus is left
2nd value: up/down minus is down
3rd value: forward/back minus is back
)

BACKUP to desktop, the cabview file first.

Exit MSTS make and save changes restart MSTS through Train Store see result.

It's up to you. Make sure you have the BACKUP first.

[abclare]

Hi Doug.
If you thnik it will not help then i belive you so i will not mess around with any settings i will just leave it how it is.
Thanks for trying to help anyway

[douglee]

Hi Art,

i belive you

Don't listen to me, What do I know?

Seriously, as long as you have a backup, even of the whole Loco Folder. Any mistakes can be reversed. Although the worst that can happen is a Cabview 60ft in the air or something like that. Then just put the values back to what they were.

Good luck
Doug

[abclare]

Hi Art,

i belive you

Don't listen to me, What do I know?

Seriously, as long as you have a backup, even of the whole Loco Folder. Any mistakes can be reversed. Although the worst that can happen is a Cabview 60ft in the air or something like that. Then just put the values back to what they were.

Good luck
Doug

Thanks Doug.

[abclare]

Hi Art,

i belive you

Don't listen to me, What do I know?

Seriously, as long as you have a backup, even of the whole Loco Folder. Any mistakes can be reversed. Although the worst that can happen is a Cabview 60ft in the air or something like that. Then just put the values back to what they were.

Good luck
Doug

Hi Doug.

Changed the Position to ( 1 1 0 ) and it is the same view what have i not done?????

[douglee]

Hi Art,
OK. You have your backup. Yes?
Read this bit again.

Tr_CabViewFile (
CabViewType ( 3 )
CabViewFile ( "..\\..\\HW_common.cab\\gwr\\cabview\\cabfront.ace" )
CabViewWindow ( 402 0 300 400 )
CabViewWindowFile ( "..\\..\\HW_common.cab\\gwr\\cabview\\AcWndFrn.ace" )
Position ( 1 1 0 )
Direction ( 10 -19 -5 )
CabViewFile ( "..\\..\\HW_common.cab\\gwr\\cabview\\cableft.ace" )
CabViewWindow ( 0 0 640 480 )

The line in red is the one to change. There is a space between each value. Value is meters.
(
Ist value: left/right minus is left
2nd value: up/down minus is down
3rd value: forward/back minus is back
)

Position ( 1 1 0 ) is the line as it is we do not know what it needs to be. So we change the line a bit at a time until the best one is found.
The second "1" is the value to change. Change it to "2". Do not forget to save the changes. Start MSTS and try the views.

Have a play and see what you get.

Come back.

Good luck
Doug

[ianmacmillan]

The middle number is the hight from rail level in metres.

Change it to 3 and you should be OK.

[abclare]

The middle number is the hight from rail level in metres.

Change it to 3 and you should be OK.

Changed to 3 still the same am i saving correct? When i go back and look it is what i saved so i must be saving correct way?? What are the numbers on all other cabs as they are just right for Foward view????

[douglee]

Hi Art,
Ian has given the best value. I was hoping to give you a learning curve, as the best way to learn.

Nearly all large locos have a cabview at 3 meters above rail level. Smaller industrial types are lower.

So! For the Cabview we are changing The line will read "Position ( 1 3 0 )" Keep the spacing.

As to not changing in the Sim you say the values are as you changed them in the .cvf File.
Are you completely shutting down MSTS and restarting again? The values need to be read by the program again to register the new figures.

Or! Are you changing the right Cabview in the right Folder. For the act No22 it is 'HW_Gwr2301'
For other acts locos that use the same Cabview each one must be changed.

Good luck
Doug

[abclare]

Every Actvity that uses this Loco has the same view so looks like i have to go along with it no one else has made any comments about it.

[abclare]

Hi Doug.
Just checked in right folder and changing the Position ( 1 3 0 ) as you said??? A I think that i should stick with it i can run from another view as you said in the first instant.???

[douglee]

Hi Art,
This is the adjusted view at a station,


Click the image to zoom in


As you see the view is higher but is not right.
How does it compare to yours?

Good luck
Doug