Cab Rides

tubemad · Post by **tubemad** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:11 pm

Is there a chance of a cab ride on a wessex trains service from Chippenham-Westbury? how would i ask go up to the driver and say? but i dunno about asking them as i have heard that Wessex trains are......well....moany gits.

Thank you,
James.

southcoasttrains · Post by **southcoasttrains** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:16 pm

I would say no.

It's best to write to the company to see if you can have a cab ride.

I've asked a few times and the answer is a straight no!

I'm on a Privalage rail pass and I wave that to the drivers but the answers are always a straight no

trainfanaticuk · Post by **trainfanaticuk** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:19 pm

tiet fisted gits who dont have a life. u ask the conducter on FNW and hell be glad to as long as u dont touch anything!!! lol eg switch directions/lights

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:20 pm

I once wrote to Freightliner for a cab pass from crewe to wentloog and mentioned that i already have a PTS certificate. They replied with a very good warming letter about the H&SE policy which cover most company's, and a diary from heavy haul. Saying that i managed a Birmingham ITL to NS cab ride with FNW when 37402 was on it a couple of years ago. To say atleast he wasn't short for a pint at the end of his shift.

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:43 pm

What the hell is the matter with you people? Having an unauthorised person in the driving cab of a train is criminally negligent and would lead to demotion if not dismissal for the driver concerned, if he/she were observed to have someone in the cab. Train Companies do not issue driving cab passes any more because they cannot spare Traction Inspectors to accompany such people and they do not want their drivers at risk of being distracted and possibly passing a signal (SPAD) in error.

If doing their job properly makes them 'moany old gits' then you really ought to grow up before making such stupid postings and learn about real life. A real train is not a Microsoft Simulator train...

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 10:54 pm

so a ride on the test trains for the CTRL is out of the question then?

LucaZone crosses that one of the list of things to do

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:16 pm

Dale does have a point there. We'd be risking alot of peoples lives doing these things. Ok so its the driver responsibilty, And YOU are his main responsibility. We who have done this, have so at our own risk. Its the same in a stationary loco unless at an organised event. Ok i admit there were a group of us who did a little competition called "How many bashers in a 37's cab" we managed 16 in one cab, the driver was laughing his head off. i got off first and alot of onlookers watched as the rest followed me.

tubemad · Post by **tubemad** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:34 pm

hmmm well i managed to have a cab ride not that long ago..

Should i just write to them, or is there a e-mail for this type?

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:47 pm

http://www.wessextrains.co.uk a think, not sure though.

coastal11 · Post by **coastal11** » Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:52 pm

Hi All

I can tell you that a ride in the cab with any TOC is a no go as Basild has said I work for FGE and hold a PTS card and work on the trains and I am not aloud to ride in the cabs if the driver is cought the its instant dissmisal on FGE and I would think its the same on the others.

Goingnorth · Post by **Goingnorth** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 1:26 am

Just to back up Dale, and what has been said:

Cab rides are no go for non-safety critical staff or safety critical staff without a cab pass. Unless a Traction inspector is in the cab.

It is not worth a while a driver considering such a move as not only is it criminally negligent, it's strictly against railway rules and a possible safety hazard. It would probably lead to instant dismissal..and there are plentry of spies about!

If if you are a safety critical member of staff WITH a cab pass the driver can still refuse and if you are allowed you expected not to distract him/her and keep a good look out. And you are only supposed to be there for a good reason: Learning the road, Pilot working etc..

So the only way TOCs can assist is to provide a Traction inspector. So unless it's for a very good reason you won't get one as they are not resourced for such things.

Fodda · Post by **Fodda** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:52 pm

And since 11th September I doubt if any driver worth his salt would even want an unknown person sitting next to him. I think, if you managed to get a cab-ride before... do the same thing again to get another cab-ride, but just keep well quiet about it and respect the fact that the driver may just lose his job through doing you a massive favour.

Now... having said that, any chance of a cab-ride in a Eurostar going through the tunnel please Dale?

trainfanaticuk · Post by **trainfanaticuk** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 7:44 pm

OK SO WHAT UR SAYING IS THAT U WILL DISTRACT THE DRIVER! WELL I NEVER! SO THIS APPLIES FOR CARS? BUSES! OH LETS SEE "HELLO BUS DRIVER HOW ARE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU" CRASH OR THROUGHT A RED ALIGHT! COME ON!!! ALSO IN A CAR "SO HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?" BANG INTO ANOTHER CAR OR THROUGH A RED SIGNAL. I DONT THINK SO!

ne way after shouting........................... if train drivers can be distracted easily they shouldnt be driving a train simple as 123 (and dont come out with "and 123 was hard when i was a baby")

CASE CLOSED

bin :drinking:

Peace man

Neptune50006 · Post by **Neptune50006** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:10 pm

trainfanaticuk wrote:OK SO WHAT UR SAYING IS THAT U WILL DISTRACT THE DRIVER! WELL I NEVER! SO THIS APPLIES FOR CARS? BUSES! OH LETS SEE "HELLO BUS DRIVER HOW ARE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU" CRASH OR THROUGHT A RED ALIGHT! COME ON!!! ALSO IN A CAR "SO HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?" BANG INTO ANOTHER CAR OR THROUGH A RED SIGNAL. I DONT THINK SO!

ne way after shouting........................... if train drivers can be distracted easily they shouldnt be driving a train simple as 123 (and dont come out with "and 123 was hard when i was a baby")

CASE CLOSED

bin

Peace man

Did I really just read that....or was it a bad dream.

jdjonny · Post by **jdjonny** » Fri Dec 13, 2002 8:29 pm

you lot should take a trip to france. We went in the summer. Me my brother and my dad were watching a mianline DMU start up at Vannes station. The conductor came out, led us across a working depot, and let us up in the train. We went to the cab with him, where the driver greeted us, and pulled the train onto the mainline. After a TGV had cleared, we went down the mainline and into the platform (we had to switch cabs) Great fun, and a treasured memory. I remember it better than the rest of the holiday-although it may be different if we had gone by the channel tunnel. Preserved lines are great too. I've been in the cab of a Pannier tank up and down the platform, a 20, 37 (EWS), 47 (freightliner) and a 50.