European Bahn returning to MSTS

[steamnut44]

If enough MSTS users contact EB and suggest further expansions to some of their major Routes, Such as Midalnd main Line, WCML ( West Coast Express) and ECML. then maybe they might consider doing these, if enough people are interested in their products. Has anyone ever had a reply from EB, after asking about any future additions to their routes?
There doesn't seem to be information on their website, stating that they intend to do any more routes for MSTS, other than their latest release.

Geoff

[LeeEAS]

Am I the only one here wishing that rather than extend their routes they would focus on improving the quality of their current ones?

Personally I am appalled at the quality of their add-ons since ECE1, why they feel the need to use repetitive scenery and flood their routes with trees, most of their add-ons aren't even playable. Then they have the cheek to charge rather silly prices for stuff which is quite frankly not up to commercial standards, they can't even spell properly either (Where is St. Pancrus, and Chuffley?). There are far better routes and stock on UKTS that I would pay good money for where people have actually put the effort into. I'm afraid I've given up with EB, I won't be purchasing from them again, unless they can prove me wrong and make something upto 3DTrainStuff/MT standards.

[tubemad]

Maybe asking them to come up with a sign patch might be an idea? I personally thought the Farringdon extension looked alright, but they spelt Blackfriars as 'Blackfriers' and the ones Lee added too, maybe they can do at least a free add on patch, shouldn't take a few minutes to update it, or include the update should the route be extended maybe?

[LeeEAS]

maybe they can do at least a free add on patch

That is exactly what I would like to see.

[NiallGray]

Just curious, but would renaming these stations, break existing activities? On LSC the station ace files are correct, showing "Barnham", but the station shows up in the route at "Barham".

Something I've always wondered but didn't know the answer.

[158881]

If you go onto the "trainstore" section of their website, watch the small slide show at the bottom and it shows one of their routes as "Great Western London - Bristol"

maybe dropping a few hints by any chance?

[45002]

If you go onto the "trainstore" section of their website, watch the small slide show at the bottom and it shows one of their routes as "Great Western London - Bristol"

maybe dropping a few hints by any chance?

That advert has been there for ages

Question i would like to ask is,would you anyone spend £8.99 for http://www.europeanbahn.co.uk/eb_lsc_ca ... pic001.htm

?

MARTIN

[expressboy1983]

Just curious, but would renaming these stations, break existing activities? On LSC the station ace files are correct, showing "Barnham", but the station shows up in the route at "Barham".

Something I've always wondered but didn't know the answer.

Don't think it would break the activity as such no, if anything you'd just get a version/build number difference, which would just require a re-save. I don't think anything else would need to be done at all.

Someone will no doubt correct me if i'm wrong.

[expressboy1983]

If you go onto the "trainstore" section of their website, watch the small slide show at the bottom and it shows one of their routes as "Great Western London - Bristol"

maybe dropping a few hints by any chance?

That advert has been there for ages

Question i would like to ask is,would you anyone spend £8.99 for http://www.europeanbahn.co.uk/eb_lsc_ca ... pic001.htm

?

MARTIN

I wouldn't, around a fiver maybe yeah - but 8.99 is very steep considering you get next to nothing for it.

Sounds like a KRS/RW trait to me......

As Lee stated, it's only going to be covered and overloaded with tree's and all sorts of random trackside clutter which'll chew up frame rates no end. They need to grasp quality over quantity, then us poor folk wont need a super computer just to run LSC.

ALTHOUGH to give them credit where credits due, i can run their midland mainline route fairly well on full graphics. The rest are (or rather were) a hopeless waste of time on my machine.

[gswindale]

As a smaller product, a good deal more attention has been paid to the surrounding area , heralding a departure for us at // EuropeanBahn /// to create smaller more detailed products.

From the product page on their website.

Although the screenshots available at present do absolutely nothing for me - take the 2nd one for example - you can see a brick wall and not a lot else!

I am slightly concerned they are going down the Railworks route re pricing etc. Maybe if they were to include the Tattenham Corner line and think about the quality of their commercial competitors it would maybe more worthwhile?

[perfnet]

It's nice to see that LSC will no longer be the first entry in a series of one, but I had hoped that they might have their sights set on distant Seaford...

[Backfoot2002]

If anything one thing that could improve the quailty of there routes is UKFinescale. I cannot understand why they do not use it. Its ok once you get going (I have tried it myself) and it helps the route look 10x better, even if they are using the same scenery. There is a great user guide and sheet lisiting all the UKFS sections which makes life easier too.

Another problem ive notice they have is gradients. The trackwork is upa nd down all the time instead of smooth. Again trying this myself, I managed to create smooth grades by using the elevation tool in MSTS Route Editor.

Two small steps that could be use and could give their route a much better look and feel.


As for Caterham branch, doesnt really intrest me as I have never heard of it. From the sounds of it, the route is very short too. I think when you have to result to mentioning a highly detailed supermarket car park in a route, its nothing to look forward too. The screenshot leaves much to be desired also......

[Backfoot2002]

On a sperate note I do actually like a couple of EB products, these include the ECE series (1-3) and WCE. WCE could be better if it was extended towards Manchester.

The ECE is good for long runs. Scenery (mainly trees) gets a little thick at times but both routes run well. I think the trackwork on WCE is slighty better and ECE with gradients been better attempted.

[40058]

I never really did get into their routes, maybe I'm too fussy I don't know but when you run a Making Tracks route complete with finescale and differing scenary throughout complete with a mountain of stock it's difficult to show any enthusiasm. ECE & WCE had that repetitive default look to them to me and my biggest gripes were the alternate red/green bushes and green/yellow fields throughout the routes and on WCE why hang the signals from the overhead wire gantries why not build specific signal ones?

The HST's & Class 47's are laughable but on the plus side their SR EMU's including the 319 look decent.

40058.

[Acorncomputer]

Hi

EB seem neutral on the subject of building for Railworks neither saying that they are building for the simulation nor that they are not.

I can fully understand the move to smaller more detailed routes, as that is my own approach to route building, but I think RailWorks is an ideal simulation for fine detail and my own Spa Valley Railway route demonstrates this admirably.

I am still intrigued by the apparent sudden move by EB away from RailWorks, perhaps all will be revealed in time.