Severn Valley Running Problems.

exfireman · Post by **exfireman** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:08 pm

Hi Fellow Members.

Can someone advise why the Severn Valley Railway add on does not run smoothly, no matter what you do it keeps jumping and runs very slow, the sounds are out of sync, when useing the mouse it jumps every where but where you want it to be. I have no trouble with MSTS itself. I have added on Great British Steam and Electric Locomotives with no trouble at all, and all these work fine, any answers please.

Best Regards Theo.

emrhd01 · Post by **emrhd01** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:20 pm

I'm not an expert, but just trying to help as no one has made a reply yet.

This could be a memory problem, are you using Trainstore? If not you can download from this site and this could help you out. Worth a try until one of the more informed gives you some help.

Lad491 · Post by **Lad491** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:54 am

SVR is one of the most graphically intensive routes around. You will probably find you cannot run it on full settings. Start by putting sounds to medium, moving the best graphics/best performance slider down two notches towards best performance. You may also have to reduce all other graphics settings by up to two notches.

Other things which may help, trainstore as stated above can help, also try the Bin patch if you havent already, as this can help frame rates by better memory management.

Personally i was never happy with it on my PC and uninstalled it eventually as i could never get decent performance

douglee · Post by **douglee** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:00 pm

Hi Theo,
I can say from experience, that the MSTSBin patch improves the frame rates on the SVR addon no end. The only thing I have turned off is shadows, as it was posted recently that this helps frame rates as well.

GOOD LUCK

Doug

exfireman · Post by **exfireman** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:27 pm

Many Thanks to the three of you, i have took your much needed advice and downloaded Trainstore again, updated the graphics card, sorted out the options and found that it worked to a degree. I still get jumping frames in places especialy when traveling at slow speed 5-10 mph. I must say i am very disapointed with the steam sounds, ( i have never of a tank engine traveling light with the compression valves going when under steam). And starting off even with a small train sounds as if it is strugleing with a load of 40 wagons. But there is one good thing there are some great GWR stock on it.
Well many thanks to you all.

Regards Theo.

BobLatimer · Post by **BobLatimer** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:01 pm

Theo,

Did the Bin patch not help the jumping? Is it a regular "jump" rather than a random one? If so, it could be something you have running in the background, like a motherboard or graphics card monitor.

As far as the sounds are concerned (I'm not an ex-fireman so I wouldn't know all the subtleties of the sounds), there are a couple of things to keep in mind. The first is that there is a limit to what is possible with MSTS and that includes the sounds. There are some things that just cannot be done. The second is that this is an "old" route, in MSTS terms. I think it was first released in 2003. The knowledge of how to improve the "reality" of the experience of MSTS has expanded tremendously since then.

Regards,

Bob.

tripman · Post by **tripman** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:32 am

Theo said " I must say i am very disappointed with the steam sounds"
Hi
There is something peculiar about the seven Valley sounds. I struggle to stay awake on this route. Once, when running the Santa special, I went completely and knocked my head on the wall.
I enjoy the route but run now with the sound down very low.
Should have a health warning. Ha Ha
CU Eric

Lad491 · Post by **Lad491** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:51 pm

I struggle to stay awake on this route. Once, when running the Santa special, I went completely and knocked my head on the wall.

Maybe thats why I always fall asleep at the controls at UKTS roadshows

exfireman · Post by **exfireman** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:33 am

Hi Bob,C U Eric,Lad 491.

Bob, i have downloaded Trainstore,update patch,and updated the graphics card,this has improved matters no end. The reason i was disatisfied with the steam sounds was that i read some where that the sounds where recorded from the original engines, some sounds are right but not others, whereas the diesel sounds are spot on particualy the Western. As for falling to sleep i see what you mean, there are far to many speed checks on this route, after all the top speed is 25 mph, I hope in the futcher someone will bring the route back as it was in GWR days, from Kidderminster to Shrewsbury without to many speed checks and running at normal speed.

Many Thanks to you All. Regards Theo.

Fodda · Post by **Fodda** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:54 am

The trouble with sounds in MSTS is that ther is only one set of sounds per engine. So if the sounds were recorded from an engine under a load puffing up a hill, then that's what it'll sound like. Conversely, the recording may be of an LE movement.

So unless you do a fair bit of searching out, and/or change the soundset to suit your load and driving conditions, then I'm afraid that's it.

Personally, I'd sooner have a loaded soundset, as that's what I like to drive rather than an LE soundset.

Diesels tend to sound much of a muchness whether under load or not... Notch 7 is Notch 7 after all.

Although of course you're unlikely to use Notch 7 when running LE.

johny · Post by **johny** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:33 pm

exfireman wrote:...I hope in the futcher someone will bring the route back as it was in GWR days, from Kidderminster to Shrewsbury without to many speed checks and running at normal speed...

It was the intention of Blue Arrow TS (BATS) to build such a route, Shrewsbury-Worcester, set in the early 1940s for the TrainMaster Train Simulator (TMTS), unfortunately, the version of TMTS intended for the general public was put on indefinite hold.

John

exfireman · Post by **exfireman** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:28 pm

Hi Johny.

Thanks for the information on a Shrewsbury to Worcester route, at least someone is trying, but is the simulater you mentioned a different one to the MSTS, and if so, how different is it in comparison.

Regards Theo.

WSR2005 · Post by **WSR2005** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:39 pm

exfireman wrote:Hi Johny.

Thanks for the information on a Shrewsbury to Worcester route, at least someone is trying, but is the simulater you mentioned a different one to the MSTS, and if so, how different is it in comparison.

Regards Theo.

http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewforum.php?f=146&

You will notice that you will be unable to reply to these threads, since the project is on hold indefinitely, as Johny mentioned above.

Tim

Sonic21 · Post by **Sonic21** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:39 am

You could try looking in the UKTS download library, under file type/ sounds / locomotives.
Chris Jephcott has uploaded some improvements, which are well worth giving a try.

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