There is a 'Helicopter View' with which you can see another train coming whilst you are standing at a red signal.Zusätzlich gibt es eine sog. Helikopterperspektive, in der man sehen kann ob ein Gegenzug kommen könnte wenn man vor einem roten Signal steht
Any news from the show in Dortmund ?
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The red colored spots on the left - are they track maintenance team ?jamesinbolton wrote:keber wrote:This is one with supposed superelevation/cant in the curve. Also, is it just me or catenary wires really bend in turns rather on catenary poles?
All together very nice graphics and the BR101 driver's desk looks very promissing. The LCD panel on the right is EBULA - electronic timetable monitor while the LCD panel on the left is main computer panel.
Adam
Try http://imageshack.us for image uploading. Upload selected image and then copy-paste last given url on the page of an uploaded image.
@jamesbolton:
>>> I can see what you mean about it appearing to be leaning, however, what is a little worrying is that it looks like its leaning to the wrong side!!
I wouldn't say that. I think rather, that superelevation is visible in the track, but train itself is not leaned (yet). Still we just have to wait to see better screens.
@jamesbolton:
>>> I can see what you mean about it appearing to be leaning, however, what is a little worrying is that it looks like its leaning to the wrong side!!
I wouldn't say that. I think rather, that superelevation is visible in the track, but train itself is not leaned (yet). Still we just have to wait to see better screens.
Throttle = 1%.
Oh dear, I hope that doesn't mean it's going down the same road as MSTS with the way throttle settings are represented.
Other than that the screenshots are not bad. Bit disappointed if the catenary is not going to zigzag as in real life, i.e. will follow the curvature of the track database as in MSTS. Guess if that's a performance trade off to reduce the impact on other features we will have to live with it.
However I am starting to share the concerns of others that we should not have to be relying on photo captures of monitors at trade shows for the latest WIP images. On the other hand, the fact they're still demonstrating it hopefully means the project hasn't been canned even if there's no clue when it might actually come out!
Oh dear, I hope that doesn't mean it's going down the same road as MSTS with the way throttle settings are represented.
Other than that the screenshots are not bad. Bit disappointed if the catenary is not going to zigzag as in real life, i.e. will follow the curvature of the track database as in MSTS. Guess if that's a performance trade off to reduce the impact on other features we will have to live with it.
However I am starting to share the concerns of others that we should not have to be relying on photo captures of monitors at trade shows for the latest WIP images. On the other hand, the fact they're still demonstrating it hopefully means the project hasn't been canned even if there's no clue when it might actually come out!
BR 101 Cab Interior
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But how can I paste the picture and make it visible in my post ???
Adam
But how can I paste the picture and make it visible in my post ???
Adam
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At http://www.tssf-forum.de/yabbse/index.p ... 0;start=45 Mitoba says (in his second post on that page):keber wrote:@AndiS:
>>> Some other person did see zig-zag in catenary (in "shunting mode" which seems to translate to "viewed from inside the cab").
I can't find that statement. Could you please copy-paste into it?
which translates to "I did indeed see zig-zag in catenenary in 'shunting view', although maybe not strong, but it was there!"Ich habe aus der "Rangiersicht" sehr wohl einen Zickzack-Verlauf der Oberleitung gesehen, auch wenn es vielleicht nicht sehr stark ist, aber es war da!
However, I must say that the picture posted in this thread looks very convincing (to the bad). Lets hope that some Kuju representative jumps in soon to tell us it is just work in progress.
Regarding conversion of models: From TMTS we learnt that there are two paths to go.
A) The creator of the model can export his model to a new sim if and only if the new sim supports his modelling programme. 3DCanvas is supported. I remember vaguely an announcement about a TSM importer into 3DCanvas, which would save that large portion of models. For Gmax we are still left in the dark, for the full version of the programme there will be no problem as Kuju use it.
B) Anyone could directly convert .s files into anything, e.g., KRS shapes. However, the creators of the models will not be happy about the availability of such a tool, and further processing (improving) of the converted model is difficult, because hierarchy information is lost in the conversion to .s. Therefore, no one ever came up with such a tool as no one wanted to bear the risk of being sued for producing a tool to infringe copyright.
Therefore, I am not too excited about such vague statement like "it will be possible". Without details, the information content is near zero.
Is that on the left a track monitor?
If so, in my opinion, it should be transparent! Don't you think so?
If so, in my opinion, it should be transparent! Don't you think so?
I'm sorry Nath, I'm afraid version 43.5 is obsolete. Last release is 43.6a and minimun requirements are 10GHz processor and 5GB RAMnath9425 wrote:In that screenshot!! Look at the bottom!
"Rail Sim Version 43.5"
Wow!! I must say we have a 1/2 version on our hands!
And it's running in XP!
Nath
Hi,
here is my report from the Intermodellbau 2007:
I visited the booth for about 45 minutes. I managed to talk to Sabrina (thanks for patently answering my questions!!!). Unfortunately, she was quite noncommittal regarding questions whether a feature will be in the final release or not. Somehow I got the impression that they will decide at a very late point in time which feature will be enabled or not, depending on the progress of the development, the bugs and so on.
First of all, I asked her about the lack of information, including screenshots. Her answer was that she is fully aware of this, but that they are all quite busy and that finishing the product has simply a higher priority. Screenshots need to be approved by the lead artist, and he is very busy, too.
She confirmed that the current plans are to release the simulator in September. It is unclear whether there will be a demo version or not. It is a decision Electronic Arts has to make. However, if they decide to have one, it shall be released about three months before the simulator will be available in the retail shops.
The beta phase shall include testing by external people. I am not sure whether I understood her correctly how those people are selected. Therefore, I leave it open.
Asking about the British routes, she told me that they are nearly complete like the German route. Although they seemed to be included in the build installed on the machine, she didn't want me to see them. The status of the US part is still unclear. It seems that not all contracts required for the US versions have been made so far. As far as I understood they are planning one or two routes. In the ideal case, there would be a single version containing all European and US routes, but this is still open.
Regarding IGA, I told her my point and that I am not the only one who has an aversion against this. I said that this is going to hurt them and that I would pay 10 euros or pounds more to get rid of this. While they are aware of this problem, they rely on the ability to disable this (opt-out). She told me that they do not plan to remove this ability in future versions.
As mentioned above, I did not get a clear a "yes" or "no" regarding the inclusion of some features. This includes German safety mechanisms (PZB, SIFA) as well as superevelation. The EBULA of the German locomotives will not be supported, maybe they will put a static image onto the screen.
She showed me a little bit more of the track monitor. Besides the known image showing the track layout and signals, one can switch to other displays, showing the task list of the scenario with the completion status, a "side view", showing the gradients of the route or, last but not least, the train configuration, which seems to consist of at least the identification of the locomotive and carriages and the status of the couplers.
I drove a little bit around with a scenario starting at Hagen and indeed I recognized a lot of locations. On the first view, the trackwork looks quite prototypical. There are differences in buildings and bridges -- but please do not interpret this as a negative criticism. I do not believe that one can build such a long route for an affordable amount of money with each building in the vicinity of tracks being prototypical. Regarding the catenary, I can confirm the observation of the others. No zig-zag, instead centered, even in curves (resulting in a bent wire, which is technically impossible). Somewhat disappointing.
I was also a bit disappointed about the possible camera distances. From Trainz, I am used to more freedom here.
I made a few photos. Unfortunately, some of them were so blurry that I cannot show them to you. I did not scale down/crop the images or edited otherwise; please excuse the bad quality, the light conditions are always rather bad in the exhibition halls. Each image is 2048x1536 and about 800-900 kBytes. The screen resolution was, by the way, 1280x1024.
Image 1 shows some dark clouds above Hagen.
Image 2 shows the gradient display.
Image 3 shows the already seen track display.
Image 4 shows the train status display.
Image 5 shows a crossing.
While I was driving, I snapped up a conversation between Ernst Tollknäpper (one of the German Railroad founders) and and a visitor, where he told him that they are in preparation of a first commercial route for KRS and, if I understood correctly, of a relaunch of their web site. However, they cannot launch the latter at the moment because of the NDAs with Kuju.
I hope I remembered everything. If not, I will add it later to the thread.
Klaus
here is my report from the Intermodellbau 2007:
I visited the booth for about 45 minutes. I managed to talk to Sabrina (thanks for patently answering my questions!!!). Unfortunately, she was quite noncommittal regarding questions whether a feature will be in the final release or not. Somehow I got the impression that they will decide at a very late point in time which feature will be enabled or not, depending on the progress of the development, the bugs and so on.
First of all, I asked her about the lack of information, including screenshots. Her answer was that she is fully aware of this, but that they are all quite busy and that finishing the product has simply a higher priority. Screenshots need to be approved by the lead artist, and he is very busy, too.
She confirmed that the current plans are to release the simulator in September. It is unclear whether there will be a demo version or not. It is a decision Electronic Arts has to make. However, if they decide to have one, it shall be released about three months before the simulator will be available in the retail shops.
The beta phase shall include testing by external people. I am not sure whether I understood her correctly how those people are selected. Therefore, I leave it open.
Asking about the British routes, she told me that they are nearly complete like the German route. Although they seemed to be included in the build installed on the machine, she didn't want me to see them. The status of the US part is still unclear. It seems that not all contracts required for the US versions have been made so far. As far as I understood they are planning one or two routes. In the ideal case, there would be a single version containing all European and US routes, but this is still open.
Regarding IGA, I told her my point and that I am not the only one who has an aversion against this. I said that this is going to hurt them and that I would pay 10 euros or pounds more to get rid of this. While they are aware of this problem, they rely on the ability to disable this (opt-out). She told me that they do not plan to remove this ability in future versions.
As mentioned above, I did not get a clear a "yes" or "no" regarding the inclusion of some features. This includes German safety mechanisms (PZB, SIFA) as well as superevelation. The EBULA of the German locomotives will not be supported, maybe they will put a static image onto the screen.
She showed me a little bit more of the track monitor. Besides the known image showing the track layout and signals, one can switch to other displays, showing the task list of the scenario with the completion status, a "side view", showing the gradients of the route or, last but not least, the train configuration, which seems to consist of at least the identification of the locomotive and carriages and the status of the couplers.
I drove a little bit around with a scenario starting at Hagen and indeed I recognized a lot of locations. On the first view, the trackwork looks quite prototypical. There are differences in buildings and bridges -- but please do not interpret this as a negative criticism. I do not believe that one can build such a long route for an affordable amount of money with each building in the vicinity of tracks being prototypical. Regarding the catenary, I can confirm the observation of the others. No zig-zag, instead centered, even in curves (resulting in a bent wire, which is technically impossible). Somewhat disappointing.
I was also a bit disappointed about the possible camera distances. From Trainz, I am used to more freedom here.
I made a few photos. Unfortunately, some of them were so blurry that I cannot show them to you. I did not scale down/crop the images or edited otherwise; please excuse the bad quality, the light conditions are always rather bad in the exhibition halls. Each image is 2048x1536 and about 800-900 kBytes. The screen resolution was, by the way, 1280x1024.
Image 1 shows some dark clouds above Hagen.
Image 2 shows the gradient display.
Image 3 shows the already seen track display.
Image 4 shows the train status display.
Image 5 shows a crossing.
While I was driving, I snapped up a conversation between Ernst Tollknäpper (one of the German Railroad founders) and and a visitor, where he told him that they are in preparation of a first commercial route for KRS and, if I understood correctly, of a relaunch of their web site. However, they cannot launch the latter at the moment because of the NDAs with Kuju.
I hope I remembered everything. If not, I will add it later to the thread.
Klaus
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