arabiandisco wrote:bluearrow wrote:mickoo737 wrote:
Not true, there licensing addons, that includes any commercial addon, specifically routes and loco packs etc, thats not rumour, thats fact.
If you make anything commercial, your going to have to get a license, which makes Verns point doubly interesting where sites like UKTS have a CD payment system for freeware, technically thats a commercial venture,.... though with little profit if any...., money still changes hands for goods and that makes it commercial.
Then there is the question of the £1,000 advance from the commercials!
Is that confirmed? I don't know anything about the economics of these things, but all the commercial developers have been making money (OK, not a lot of it from what I've heard, not enough to make it a full-time day job, but money nonetheless) from Kuju's previous work. It's fair enough that they (or maybe it's EA) want a slice of that pie this time around. The details are sufficiently sketchy that perhaps the commercial developers might even get a better deal this time, if for instance Kuju take on the distributor's role and take that slice of the pie. Don't forget that it's in Kuju's best interests that add-ons are produced and sold, so broadly speaking they must be on the same "side" as add-on developers.
The banded figure is not confirmed by fact yet, however every other banded rumour has become true in one guise or another, thus theres little evidence to support this one being the odd man out, if you were a betting man then you couldnt get better odds on this track record.
As for Kuju shipping, that wont help developers one iota, they already pay shippers and producers to do that, all you do is swap one production body for another, that means that the likes of Contact Sales and Just Trains are out of business, and thats another rumor thats flying around as well, anyone want to take bets on that one now ??, no l didnt think so !.
To clarify that rumoured figure, thats per addon ( route or stock JB ! ), not pre tools kit, in other words the more addons you produce the more you pay, unlike other set ups where you pay a one off ' tools joining fee' for want of a better term.
As for making money, well thats a null conversation really, short of publishing our bank accounts, no one here ( other than those actually doing it ) is going to believe a word you speak, but for the record and since l've nothing to hide or gain my monthly return for EH1, Thompson, Gresley, Peppercorn, Southern and Fires & wires is £8-12 a month and its been like that for a good 18 months.
The only people who make real money are the publishers and if Kuju are now doing that side as well then there going to get all that money....and the license fee as well, double whammy really, perhaps now some might see why commercials think this is all bad cricket old sprot ?, but then again maybe not as UKTS is well known for its hard core freeware rules, sod the commercials clientel.
