Will Kuju now make their project more global

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My 2 pennies on the subject. :wink:

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This is such a subjective question. Obviously, a lot of people like to stick to their home turf and others, like myself, are very global in their interest.

For instance, yesterday, I spent a couple of hours in the game. First hour or so was spent on the Cambrian, second on the Seligman Sub (Az). Different as chalk and cheese, but, to me, both fascinating in their own way. It could have just as easily been one of the Aussie routes.

I must admit I do like the American locos. Some of the recent modelling is truly astounding. MLT and now Stream Lines have produced some marvelous engines and freight stock. So, even if the routes are long and sometimes a little tedious, the trains are not.

Actually, I think you can overstate the US bias towards the western and mountain lines. A good look on the T-S website shows a pretty good variety of routes, many in the Midwest and East. Although they are almost all freight lines, with the right stock you can turn most of them into passenger routes if you are so inclined.

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Post by eaglefan »

Im not trying to stir up any trouble, But Isnt it surprising that KUJU really had no plans for any north american routes, But when TMTS was announced that it was being put on hold. KUJU is now thinking of possibly adding a north american route to their sim?

I would probably have done the same thing, But I do find it ironic that KUJU was pretty much kissing USA route(s) off when TMTS was still a work in progress and then when TMTS reported the news of being put on hold. KUJU jumped at the first chance.

Who knows? Maybe it's just me, But with KUJU pretty much ditching the USA route(s) at first with their sim. It has left a bitter taste in my mouth and that is probably why I wont spend any money getting this sim whenever it comes out. Just my opinion.

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To me there are no surprises. It was clear that at one point they will announce a US route. It was not clear why they still wait, but piecewise announcements are part of Kuju's marketing strategy (and not only theirs).

The only correlation with the "indefinite hold" of TMTS is that now somebody published an email sent by Kuju to him.

As for the decision of buying: I am pretty sure that most people will check whether it is quality software - bugfree, well documented, and with the functions that are important to them. All but two countries on the globe should be very hot about not getting a route from their country in the original box. However, I find this completely unimportant.
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Post by WoodheadRail »

I can't see the benefit in not including targeted countries for more nations. There more the merrier I say. However, I can see people get a bit ratty if content from their own nation was included. The only problem is are countries where the retail price falls below the production and transport costs of the home nation.
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lateagain wrote:Id be gobsmacked if ANYBODY on here uses any ORIGINAL Routes?
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Post by crwbandrwg »

If Kuju does decide to come up with some North American content, I think the LIRR is an excellent idea. I'd also love to see the Amtrak Cascades line between Seattle and Vancouver - a beautiful coastal stretch of line starting from the Puget Sound, offering Intercity, urban passenger and freight services. Here's a pic I found of the route:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=114154

I think with its setting and different array of rolling stock it would make a great simulated route.
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Post by gallop3ta »

If Kuju are indeed creating a more realistic simulator all the UK and European
rolling stock should be running a 70psi brakepipe, which will make them incompatable with the higher pressured USA stock.
If this is the case the people in the USA will need to convert any stock to their standards as we have had to do here in Australia to obtain prototypical pressures etc.though it seems that no one has bothered to do the same in the UK, as all stock is running a USA brakein MSTS.
In this case it is probably better to have seperate versions for any USA add on.
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I am pretty sure that KRS will include some tool to fix such settings in (larger) parts of your rolling stock.
The more aspects of the prototype you model in the sim, the less compability there is. It is not about brakes, also about Automatic Train Protection, coupler and buffer dimensions.

Such a utility can be done in MSTS (Route Riter and EngMod demonstrate it), and if the physics side of the sim would earn more attention there would be countless tools to fix parameters.
For KRS with hopefully more accurate and complex physics such a tool will either be in the box or emerge from the community within short notice.
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