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Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:11 pm
by pauls
Hi,

Just a warning for others :-

I added some new track and buildings to the Bath-Templecombe route in KRS. The latest upgrade wiped out the track but left everything else I'd done in place.
Fortunately I'd backed up the entire route and I copied it back over the upgraded route folder - this restored the track that I'd added.
I now need to find out which files need to be copied back so that I don't overwrite any improvements that the KRS team have made to this route.

Hope this helps to avoid any unecessary heartache !!

Cheers
Paul

Re: Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:02 pm
by sniper297
Still trying to figure out exactly what got fixed in the object set filter bug, US version isn't filtering everything.

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/showth ... p?t=267870

All that started from this:

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Now you see it;


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Now you don't. Trying to lay US track in a route made with the UK default template, every time I exit the track texture is gone and refuses to load. Been experimenting with the new routes in the first link, can't duplicate as yet. Anyone over here getting "enthusiastic" tracklaying that don't want to wait for you to click the mouse to finish a section?

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/showth ... p?t=267799

Got that a few times, but don't get it consistently enough to chase down the actual cause.

Re: Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:06 pm
by bremen
Anyone over here getting "enthusiastic" tracklaying that don't want to wait for you to click the mouse to finish a section?
Yes i have the same problem too.
Before the patch i have done over 15km of tracks without problems..

Re: Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:04 pm
by Retro
bremen wrote:
Anyone over here getting "enthusiastic" tracklaying that don't want to wait for you to click the mouse to finish a section?
Yes i have the same problem too.
Before the patch i have done over 15km of tracks without problems..
Have experienced the same thing today and have laid 80 miles of track before the upgrade with no problem. It just lays itself before you click. Also I am experiencing more crashes to desktop when using the Route Editor than I did before the upgrade. Usually occur when I am flying round the route, splitting track or using the colours space bar thingy to check my speed limits on the track.
Regards James.

That's one way to do it!

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:33 am
by sniper297
Hee-hee, I bought the US download version last month, uninstalled the Uk version and installed the US version, previously stable editors now crashed fairly often. They DID promise to "bring both versions to the same level", I guess if you guys are getting the same frequency of crashes we are, we're at the same level now!
Seriously, I thought it had something to do with the object set filter bug, if the UK version is now buggier it must be something else. :drinking:

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:29 pm
by AndiS
Jim, have you experimented with having two installs on the same computer? Do they kill each other, because they find traces of each other in the registry, or do they coexist?
I see us approaching MSTS tradition with micro-routes and all that. A plain version 1.0 for route laying. DevTools 1.0.2 for scenario creation (or 1.0.3?). The Mk1 version for running trains.
I told you they did not keep biscuits in that now empty barrel in the RSDL office.

Wonder what happens if I do THIS?!

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:09 pm
by sniper297
Hee-hee, I'll try anything once. Little background;

1. Got the UK version last October on DVD
2. Bought the US download version Jan 16th. Packaged York Newcastle with RStollsTMB, made a backup of the Uk version, installed US version.
3. Made a backup of the US version. Since I was fairly sure some files had been updated, and being to lazy to chase down which, I copied the \Assets folder from the UK backup into the installed railsim folder, then copied the \Assets folder from the US backup in, overwriting whatever files had the same name with the latest versions by doing it that way.
4. Downloaded the patch, copied my merged installed version to a backup, then reinstalled the US download version and patched that.

So now I have a C:\Rail Simulator folder that's the US only download, does not have any files that any other US user doesn't have. In C:\Backup1\Rail Simulator I have the prepatch merged download version. Railsim.exe has fattened up a little, 4596k for the unpatched, 4726k for the patched. Either one will run by itself with no problems, in fact I can even set one for windowed and the other for fullscreen. Can't run both at the same time tho, get a "another user is already running this" message.

Anyway, back on topic, I was SURE this had something to do with the object filter, in fact I just got it today when laying UK track in a US template route, and laying US track in a UK template route. It's almost like you have to do a short very quick tap of the mouse to start the drag, otherwise it reads it as a series of clicks or something.

Re: Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:41 pm
by AdamsRadial
Sniper297 wrote
Since I was fairly sure some files had been updated, and being to lazy to chase down which
I don't know how far back your computing goes, but I'm fairly certain you'll have used Windows 98 SE. If you still have the install CD's, the second CD contained a useful tool called Windiff. I've carried on using it through XP. You can give it two directories to compare, and it will create a list of which files differ between the two, and then allow you to copy the changed/new files to either a new directory, or to one of the two directories to bring the two into synch. It doesn't do a line or byte compare, just goes on the file size and modification date. It makes looking to see what changes have occurred as a result of an update a doddle.

I don't know if it runs under Vista and I don;t care to try and find out :)

1978?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:45 am
by sniper297
Thanks, I've had XP for quite a while now, can't remember who I gave my 98SE disk to, probably whoever I gave the last 98SE computer to. However;

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... layLang=en

Download that toolpack and it has windiff.exe in it! 8)

How far back, Avionics School, Memphis Naval Air Station, 1978 was my introduction to computers. :robot:

Re: Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:09 am
by AdamsRadial
Glad to know that windiff is easily available still.

"1978 was my introduction to computers"

I guess that was on PDP11's then :)

Re: Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:51 pm
by t1metraveller
Been using ExamDiff here for some time. I really like it. A nice "differences" display.

Bill

http://www.prestosoft.com/edp_examdiff.asp

Re: Warning :- Missing Track and the KRS Upgrade

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:10 pm
by dkightley
Windiff does do comparisons at file line level...and gives a visual display of the differences. In fact, having compared directories, you can jump dowm to viewing the file differences.

Don't know why they haven't supplied it as standard in Windows....and I'm pretty sure it works fine in Vista.