Atomic Systems

Hi all,
just downloaded the class 40 s,they are great,many thanks to D T for these loco s,
they will grace many routes,looking forward to more releases.

Eric (ladyoflynn G W R man)

looks good. Think i'll wait for the gold edition though.

Good morning all
Just to be clear about the Class 40
Anyone who purchases the Silver version has a voucher code attached to their receipt.
This voucher code is used to provide a discount to those upgrading to the gold version whenever DT release it.
I hope this helps
Kind regards Stephen

Which cab and sounds is it alisaed too?

codrivermike wrote:Which cab and sounds is it alisaed too?

Deltic cab, 47 sounds...

Interesting. Is there a 'dead' version

mforeman04 wrote:looks good. Think i'll wait for the gold edition though.

My too. The model looks superb though, but i am willing to wait. Same for the other loco's too.

Interesting. Is there a 'dead' version

You could always make your own with Mike's RSTools.

Good on DT for a step in the right direction but for me I have to say that cab and sounds are an absolute 100% must for any loco so for that reason I will be hanging fire for the GOLD edition.

It worries me a bit that cab building seems to be a major issue in RS. Nobody seems to be able to do it except for the official developers or major firms like Just Trains. The only 3rd party builder I can think of that has managed to knock out a cab was the chap who built the freeware class 86. Top marks for effort but even that cab was bare bones basic. Not wishing to pick fault with anyones work but it does seem to be a major issue with RS?? For me a good cab is more important than the external model. RS to me is a train driving simulator rather than a 'train set' simulator which is the effect you get with a model only without cab or sounds.

jimmyshand wrote:The only 3rd party builder I can think of that has managed to knock out a cab was the chap who built the freeware class 86.

I think there are a few reasons for the lack of cabs...
They take at least as long as the loco to make, although estimates from 2 to 4 times as long to make than the loco seem more accurate.
Plans for locos are quite easy to get hold of, cab plans aren't.
Unless you or someone you know can get you photos for reference they are very hard to get totally accurate - nobody on flickr has ever posted a picture of the rear left half of a cab ceiling, they're just not sexy enough!
Bearing in mind the shear amount of time they take, you can release a loco without a cab.. only an idiot would release a cab without a loco
(If you missed that reference, and the poked out tongue above, check my download list here!)
Cabs are fiddly and to be honest not much fun to make, and from a community inspiration point of view, if you release a loco everyone will e-pat you on the back and call you awesome. When you release a cab the appreciation seems considerably less

I don't find it unusual that only people making payware are willing to spend the effort, money and heart breaking time to create cabs. If you're making a loco for fun, the cab is unlikely to bring you much enjoyment in your project despite taking 75% of the time.
It also seems that people who want a quality cab for that "driver" experience are fewer than those who want to see things from outside.. I happen to be the former, hence my unique madness in creating a cab and not the loco

Further to Pete's excellent post, it is very difficult to find decent photos of steam loco cabs, many steam locos no longer exist so cabs in some cases are just a 'best guess'.

On top of that, even if you find a steam loco on a preserved line , unless the tender is removed, it is virtually impossible to get decent pictures of the cab. I have some pretty expensive camera equipment but still find it difficult to get accurate depictions of all the controls.

jimmyshand wrote: It worries me a bit that cab building seems to be a major issue in RS. Nobody seems to be able to do it except for the official developers or major firms like Just Trains. The only 3rd party builder I can think of that has managed to knock out a cab was the chap who built the freeware class 86.

Hey don't forget Ben Laws class 158 cab, I can say that is pretty spot on as he took most of the details from photo's I gave him that I took at work in a....................class 158!
Apart from the usual decay, anti company comments scrawled caveman style on the interior (I blame the conductors ) then it's pretty spot on.

jimmyshand wrote:The only 3rd party builder I can think of that has managed to knock out a cab was the chap who built the freeware class 86.

I have released 4 loco's with custom cab's, but in all honesty, there seemed to be little interest in this fact. I can only go on comments received on this forum, but having just looked back at the topics, I could only find one reply (out of quite a few) that mentioned the cabs.

Cheers,
Kevin

Hi there...

I just wonder if it's me alone, or whether it's possible to duplicate a weird occurance that happened tonight, and see if I'm alone in this or not. I love these Class 40 locos - they're well - constructed, and look really good, except for the fact that the locomotives' independent brakes do not appear to work at all. And what was odd, was that I brought a 6-car passenger train with a single Class 40 at the head, to a stop at the platform of a station on a route I'm currently working on, and left the train brake about 60% applied, then hopped into the cab of another Class 40 on a long train of flatcars with about 50/50 logs and timber, which was standing in the loop. Started it moving, only just, and shifted the view to the rear of my freight train, and noted that the Class 40 on the passenger train, was moving slowly forward.

I hopped back to the passenger train and checked the train brakes. They were still applied at around 60% as I said previously, yet the train was moving forward with the throttle closed. Returning to the freight train, I opened the throttle a bit more to get the freight train moving faster, and again shifted to the rear vehicle, and saw the passenger train was moving again, yet I had reversed it to the platform and applied the brakes fully this time, before returning to the freight train cab. What could be causing this to happen, does anyone know ? I do know that if you get beside a train that's stopped, and move the camera view down to ground level, you actually see a creeping sensation of the view moving slowly backwards, until you raise the camera view slightly. This is NOT what was happening to the Class 40 on the passenger train, as I was above the train, not at ground level.

Regards...

Jim McDermott

Not only kevin's excellent cabs as he mentions but also karma99 did the outstanding GWR Prairie cab too.

Cabs took a long time to start appearing with MSTS, if anything it's going quicker with MSTS because the skill set required to produce a full 3d cab with animations isn't that far removed from those required to produce a decent steamer.

Matt.