RS Worries

[paulz6]

I don't see the FSX community complaining like this; and they can spend up to £60 on one add-on! Getting kind of boring now.

... and there was me thinking that the users of Rail Simulators were more forgiving of the second rate than the Flight Sim community! If an addon aircraft were as unrealistic, and I'm not talking about eye candy, as some of the traction in certain Rail Simulators, there would be an outcry on the forums whether it cost £6 or £60!

Andy L

I can't say I have ever flown a 747 or driven a HST to be able to compare.

[tads1970]

I don't recall mentioning Trading standards...Lawyers ect,It's a pretty straight forward question,that imo deserves a straight answer.

I don't see the FSX community complaining like this; and they can spend up to £60 on one add-on! Getting kind of boring now.

Who's complaining?,I asked a very simple question regarding the shortfalls of the AI of the first product,do I just assume it's has been fixed for RW?

[AndyUK]

I don't see the FSX community complaining like this; and they can spend up to £60 on one add-on! Getting kind of boring now.

... and there was me thinking that the users of Rail Simulators were more forgiving of the second rate than the Flight Sim community! If an addon aircraft were as unrealistic, and I'm not talking about eye candy, as some of the traction in certain Rail Simulators, there would be an outcry on the forums whether it cost £6 or £60!

Andy L

I can't say I have ever flown a 747 or driven a HST to be able to compare.

Neither have I, but isn't that the main attraction of simulators? Just because I don't have first hand experience of either from the pilot's or driver's seat doesn't mean that I don't know how they should behave or the controls should work.

Andy L

[Acorncomputer]

About 10,000+ people have this game across the world, If everyone who has the game gave 10 pounds to RSDL thats 10,000 x 10 = 100,000 pounds...Not bad...

If that is the total revenue for the total RS product life cycle I'd hate to see Derek's and Adam's pay packets. We are lucky to get RW.

Perhaps Derek and Adam are actually just computers and do not get paid. The answers on the forums are really computer generated replies and RSDL is the name of the master computer controlling everything. That would explain the change of name to RailSimulator.com which is much more in keeping with the thinking an all powerful master computer which is probably located in the corner of some young lad's bedroom and he has no clue about what his computer is doing.

[RSAdam]

About 10,000+ people have this game across the world, If everyone who has the game gave 10 pounds to RSDL thats 10,000 x 10 = 100,000 pounds...Not bad...

If that is the total revenue for the total RS product life cycle I'd hate to see Derek's and Adam's pay packets. We are lucky to get RW.

Lets not take random figures out of the air and claim them as fact........

[Acorncomputer]

SEE ... I was right

[paulz6]

Just because I don't have first hand experience of either from the pilot's or driver's seat doesn't mean that I don't know how they should behave or the controls should work.

Fair enough, if you pull back on the joystick and the nose dips then something is wrong. But it actually means you do not have a clue about the subtlety of how a specific plane should behave.

[phill70]

Would someone be kind enough to let me know where this thread is going, because it looks like its going in the skip to me.

[AndyUK]

Just because I don't have first hand experience of either from the pilot's or driver's seat doesn't mean that I don't know how they should behave or the controls should work.

Fair enough, if you pull back on the joystick and the nose dips then something is wrong. But it actually means you do not have a clue about the subtlety of how a specific plane should behave.

I might not have first hand knowledge of the subtleties of a specific plane's behaviour but that doesn't stop me 'having a clue' by reading the comments of those that have that knowledge.

Similarly, and having noted Glyn's comment about the direction of this thread I'll try to steer it back on topic, I also know that the brake controls on the HST, Class 166 and Class 66 are not modelled correctly in RailSim. Again not by first hand experience but by noting the comments of those that have that experience and by reading up on the subject.

If we were only allowed an opinion on matters that we had first hand experience of this forum would be a very quiet place. Now there's an idea....

Andy L

[RSderek]

Is it over yet?

[smarty2]

What was the question again?

Mart

[paulz6]

Well, it is a shame that RS.com doesn't patch up it's products if the brake controls are incorrect and it is pointed out to them.
The inference that this makes the products 'unrealistic' though is a harsh comment to make. After reading about HST braking distances, things don't seem that far off.

[Darpor]

Well, it is a shame that RS.com doesn't patch up it's products if the brake controls are incorrect and it is pointed out to them.

Reading that, it seems you are making the assumptions before the product has arrived and that is the problem with what has happened with this thread. Or are you saying that they didn't patch it up in the first place when bugs were pointed out? Why can't we wait until it arrives, see what it contains, see what has been fixed and then start making all of the comments that have been mentioned thus far, although hopefully there will be nothing like this to comment about.

Also, I have noticed some silly little gripes towards Derek. Where else would you have someone from the development team answering questions pretty much on a daily basis like we get here? If he happened to take offence to what is sometimes mentioned and didn't contribute any more, I imagine the same people would be complaining about the lack of input.

[nwallace]

100k isn't even 2 developers for a year at Dundee rates for ASP.net development once you have included NI etc. in.

If you want to drive the real thing, go and drive the real thing. It's not like RS is displaying patients ECG results on screen.

[mpeffers]

Perhaps Derek and Adam are actually just computers and do not get paid. The answers on the forums are really computer generated replies and RSDL is the name of the master computer controlling everything. That would explain the change of name to RailSimulator.com which is much more in keeping with the thinking an all powerful master computer which is probably located in the corner of some young lad's bedroom and he has no clue about what his computer is doing.

It'd be unprofessional of them to express any opinions in this situation. I think it's of value for them to get a feel of how the community is reacting to their products and, even if I have my doubts if RS will live up to what I was expecting of it (as much down to how the community's reacting as any decisions RSDL have made themselves), I'm pleased to see them here making an effort to keep us in touch with what's going on within reason and actually listening to our ideas. Comments like that aren't helping anything.

Actually on that note this thread seems to have gone off the rails a bit. I started it because the whole payware discussion that had been taking over the WIP screenshots thread got me thinking, but I felt it best to try and deflect some of that discussion over here. I have no problem with mods locking it if they feel the need.