Just Trains - Bristol T.M to Exeter S.D?

[ashgray]

One problem with authors not giving release dates with products is that it seems to be expected these days - certain people will always, and regularly, demand to know when it will be released....

On the other hand, if they provide an expected release date, they're often hauled over the coals by impatient members wanting to know why it's late, when it will be ready, etc, etc.... a "no-win scenario", I think you'll agree.

There are two answers to this apparent dilemma, of course - either DIY, or wait patiently.

Ash

[Jimmerz]

Just think,

The more time you keep asking Simon and the JT team. How long will it be, Whats included etc.
They could spend the time they spend replying to these stupid messages they could actually spend on making the route.

Who Agrees,
James

[Squatch]

Talking specifically about commercial developers, I think it's odd that one would resent people asking when your products will be available and/or asking more information about them.

Even the RSDL guys have been very quiet recently on "official" development, but conversely, not their personal ones, which look great and have had plenty of good feedback. Keeping ones potential customers in the dark does seem an weird business model to me, but then again, it's a fairly captive market isn't it....

Still, hey ho, as someone else pointed out, there's plenty of content to go at already....

[Basherz]

Am I the one of the only ones to not particularly see a problem with what Just Trains are doing? It's none of my business anyway and when it turns up, it turns up!

I wonder what RSDL are doing and why isn't it here already!!

3 pages .......

[Squatch]

I wasn't saying it was a problem, I was saying that I find it odd that commercial teams weren't pushing their own products a bit. And surely it's entirely your business, if you'll be buying whichever product takes your fancy?

As for the second part, half right, I just wonder what they're doing, would be interesting to know. If someone puts a date in, great, if it's met, even better, if it's not, so be it, it's not the end of the world.

[overmarze]

I wasn't saying it was a problem, I was saying that I find it odd that commercial teams weren't pushing their own products a bit. And surely it's entirely your business, if you'll be buying whichever product takes your fancy?

As for the second part, half right, I just wonder what they're doing, would be interesting to know. If someone puts a date in, great, if it's met, even better, if it's not, so be it, it's not the end of the world.

8 weeks or 7 weeks from this week

[ashgray]

Scott, Chris - let this drop please.

Ash

[paulz6]

I think you have to remember that a decent route builder, in a commercial sense, will be lucky to get £1-£2 per hour for his efforts. This is based on MSTS quality, not RS quality. It is not minimum wage.
If you want realistic commercial developed quality, then that is what you will get. I will not name them, but try downloading people efforts from this site. It will be far better.

[RiscaStation]

Hi

Whilst every one is impatient with the "Justtrains" production, who are being chased for their route, shouldnt the impatient be directed to RS. What are they doing, have they got any thing in the pipe line or have they run out of ideas?
If there is unrest then direct it at the RS artists.
The add-ons that have been produced by "Justtrains" are very well made and if they are anything to go by then the wait is worth while.

Regards
Mike

[jp4712]

Hi

Whilst every one is impatient with the "Justtrains" production, who are being chased for their route, shouldnt the impatient be directed to RS. What are they doing, have they got any thing in the pipe line or have they run out of ideas?
If there is unrest then direct it at the RS artists.
The add-ons that have been produced by "Justtrains" are very well made and if they are anything to go by then the wait is worth while.

Regards
Mike

I'm sure RSDL are not doing nothing - maybe this is a clue?

Paul

[M1ckran]

From snippets, comments and clues placed on this forum by RSDL, I think the Christmas card might well be a good indicator of what RSDL could have planned.

It certainly looks as though there will be a Fowler 4F locomotive and, if so, it's logical to assume that there might be more to go with it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a route full of new scenery assets, locomotives and rolling stock. The Isle of Wight addon is the benchmark here and RSDL are not the kind of people to rest on their laurels. Let's hope we'll be looking at something that raises the level again.

Digital Traction's website used to carry pictures of development locomotives but they've gone quiet recently. The impression I get is that DT are not very happy people but let's hope they're working through it. One of their previously featured loco's was a very nice Fowler 4F and I wonder if DT and RSDL are working together. If so, there was also a Fowler 2P 4-4-0 and we could realistically look forward to seeing that soon, too. Not to mention several other tasty-looking items in steam, diesel and electric traction!

It makes sense for developers to work together; pooling resources to produce a better product than either could probably produce on their own. I think companies are getting a little wary of announcing their plans too far in advance so I expect Digital Traction and Just Trains might have things not too far up their sleeves right now. I'm quite optimistic about things at the moment. Fingers crossed - I might be totally wrong!

[Oldpufferspotter]

Hi all,
All the developers have one big problem - their customers' insatiable appetites!
They also have a problem in satisfying the 'rivet counters', specially in regard to 'sounds'.
I suspect that some projects are held up while authentic sounds are obtained, as if they get it 'wrong' there will be hell to play on the forums.
Like a number of railway modellers, there are those amongst Rail/Train Simmers who, it seems, will never be satisfied.
Just a few thoughts,
regards from an Old One (er - not a grumpy one, by the way!).

[RSderek]

Hi,
I can inform you that the guys at RSDL are not sat on their bums twiddling their thumbs. well some of us (me) were on Monday, I blamed the snow though.
Obviously I can’t say too much about what our plans are, there is a right time and place to do so, and this is not it.
You will just have to trust us.
A few thought we would be around for a month or 2, others thought 6 months.
All along Adam and I have been telling you that we are in this for the long haul.

The reason we talk about personal projects is because they are personal and we can talk about them.
The Rail Similarity is good fun, but if you look past the graphics you will see some really clever ideas there, not only that but the guy explains how he does it. I suggest a few take notes.

Adam, well he is a track deviant. I often think about locking him in a small office for a few months and only letting him out when he has laid the track for the whole of the UK.

Me, well I have about 5 different projects on the go, trying not to get too stressed about any of them.
While my route is going slower than I want, I have managed to build up a great picture of what my home town was like 50 to 100 years ago.
Rail Sim allows me to recreate an area long since gone, my objective is to bring it back to life with as much detail I can cram in.

So, I'm sure Just have got plans for their future projects as do we, I'm afraid you will just have to wait for now.
Or read into the little hints we drop from time to time, and yes the Christmas card was one of those...

regards

Derek

[Blackpatch]

Or read into the little hints we drop from time to time, regards

Derek

Or how about the inadvertent inclusion of 'IOW' in route screenshots before announcement.

BP

[Retro]

Hi,
Kevin and Vern make some good points as do others who are trying to or have produced Routes. The time it takes can vary enormously and a release date can never be that accurate. My own Central Route is taking a lot longer than I expected. If people want good Routes based on a real life Route you have to accept that the time taken in producing such a Route is a large variable. The only thing to do is wait and look forward to when the project is finished. IMHO Just Trains do a great job and they are doing what they do best. Give them time and respect in this matter.
Kind Regards James.