Smoke Effects - Slight Confusion

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Smoke Effects - Slight Confusion

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G'day there RS fans...

Can I please have an opinion from someone else who has successfully (backed up first !) installed the Smoke Effects file that was uploaded, I think, for the second time in a week or so, and noticed any improvement ?

The ReadMe file seems to be a little vague, as when I tried doing what it (not edited or anything this time either) stated, and copied the Particles files (it just says "file", where, in my opinion, should read "folder") into c:\program files\Rail Simulator\assets\Kuju\RailSimulator\. I neglected to backup my original folder first, and had to go to a fair bit of trouble to get it back again without re-installing KRS, but thanks to a kind person on the Forums, it was OK after not too long. What I really did, now that I think about it, I just overwrote the entire original folder instead, and upon running KRS, I started my scenario I was working on, and discovered that the steam locos main engine unit bodies wouldn't dispplay at all. Only the tenders and the front coupling hooks and links.

I couldn't get it back again until going to considerable trouble, as I said above, but I now feel that the ReadMe file itself should have been clearer in the extreme, as this could mean the difference between a huge headache, if you forget to backup the Particles folder first, as I did, and enjoying a difference to the smoke effects. To me, after I selected the files in the downloaded Particles folder, and copied them all to the original particles Folder (after backing it up :) ) and deleted the Blueprints.pak file, THEN started KRS up, and went to the freight yard to checkout the two Black 5s, I was delighted to actually see them there as usual. BUT, this time, the smoke coming out of the chimneys looked a little odd, with a darker shade of grey in an odd-looking shimmering ball, right at the top of the chimney, and which wouldn't disappear or change when I got the locos moving up to 20 mph or so. This wasn't quite what I expected to see, at all, and the original smoke was far better, I can honestly say. Try it for yourself, and see what you think of it, and, I'd really like to know how you feel, and whether anything has improved or not over the original smoke effects supplied by Kuju. I think you also need to be totally sure you don't remove the Textures folder inside the original Particles folder, which may have been deleted when I overwrote the original. If this is indeed right, just copy the new, downloaded files inside the Particles folder, to the original Particles folder, after backing it up first, and it should be fine, but again, check the results, to see if you REALLY like them, and if not, just delete the Particles folder and rename the copy back to Particles, and you'll be happy, hopefully.

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Re: Smoke Effects - Slight Confusion

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Hi

The smoke effects are mine and i realeased an update for them ovewriting the original file because there was a problem with the XML.

I am realeasing an updated Version soon to get rid of the Black ball and it will also be lighter colour.

What would you recommend i change in the readme.

Its one of my first times releasing.
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Here a preview it not a big change but ive made it whiter and have done as much as i can to get rid of the black dot.

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PS. If you dont like my smoke effects that fine am im only 15.
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Your smoke effects look fine to me ;)
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adburgess1992 wrote:Hi

The smoke effects are mine and i realeased an update for them ovewriting the original file because there was a problem with the XML.

I am realeasing an updated Version soon to get rid of the Black ball and it will also be lighter colour.

What would you recommend i change in the readme.

Its one of my first times releasing.
Hi there...

Don't take all I said to heart, too hard. I was just trying to make sure that anything from you in the future, was as clear as possible, as lots of folks might read the same thing differently, i.e. not exactly in the same manner, and get it wrong in some way. I followed your instructions as closely as possible, but still managed to copy the Particles folder so I overwrote the original, but as I said before, I just copied the FILES in the downloaded Particles folder, into my original Particles folder in KRS - NOT overwriting the folder itself - this time round, and it worked for me.

Mostly, when you look at the smoke coming out of a steam loco's funnel, it appears to start forming just a few inches ABOVE the top of the funnel itself, and not coming out darkly right at the funnel top as you might think it would. Maybe not all steamers would do this, but in most cases it does. Just make sure that the ReadMe file is as clear as possible to all who want to install it. like in steps... 1) Backup your c:\program files\Rail Simulator\Assets\Kuju\Railsimulator\Particles folder. 2) copy all the files in the downloaded Particles folder to the original Particles folder in Rail Simulator. 3) Delete the Blueprints.pak file, and load Rail Simulator. 4) Check that you are able to place a Black 5 steam loco onto the rails (both loco and tender). You may or may not see the loco's body, and just the front coupling hook and link. If this is the case, you haven't installed the files correctly. Rename another copy of "Copy of Particles" to "Particles", after deleting the failed Particles folder, and try again. Make sure the "Textures" folder is indeed inside the altered Particles folder, as well as the files from the downloaded "Particles" folder. Always make a backup of the original Particles folder FIRST, and you can always replace it if things go wrong repeatedly.

The above, if it's not too hard for you to work out (and for others as well) should be clear enough. That's up to you of course to make the decision to use it as a replacement ReadMe file, or an edited version of it. Cheers.

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Jim McDermott
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I just copied the Particles folder into my Kuju\Backups folder. Then copied the new Particles folder over the old one selecting to overwrite any existing files. Ran RS and the smoke worked fine.

I agree the black ball is a bit on the heavy side, especially when an engine is not moving, but it looks fine once on the move. I look forward to your upgraded version.
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mikesimpson wrote:I just copied the Particles folder into my Kuju\Backups folder. Then copied the new Particles folder over the old one selecting to overwrite any existing files. Ran RS and the smoke worked fine.

I agree the black ball is a bit on the heavy side, especially when an engine is not moving, but it looks fine once on the move. I look forward to your upgraded version.
Hi Mike...

For some reason I can't explain, when I had that black (or dark grey) ball on top of the funnel, and got the train moving (a rather heavy train too, requiring a bit of throttle) to about 30-50 km/h, it made no difference to the black (grey) ball. It remained the same throughout. I suppose all you do is overwrite the original update with the 2nd update, and have a backup of the original unchanged Particles folder handy in case of problems. I think I just overwrote the original folder, with the first update, and the steamers disappeared apart from the coupling hooks and links :) I may have gotten rid of the Textures folder somehow, but can't work out how it happened twice in a row... would that, if it happened (textures folder being deleted) make the loco bodies disappear ?

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Jim McDermott
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