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I Have Bought Rail Simulator When It First Came Out And Was Astonished By It.

But As I Have Been Playing It For A While I Am Fed Up With The Judder

My Current Graphics Card Is A Extramely Slow Nvidia GeForce Fx 5200 And Hoping For A New Card.

I Bought A New Card Recently And Some How Didn't Fit But Just As I Was Sending It Back I Noticed 2 Differences On Them And That Was The Copper Shiney Redish Brown Bits Were Different As On My Old One They Turned Out 2 Be 3 Separte Parts But The New One Was Different

I Don't Now What To Do Or Do I Come To The Stage Of A Gaming Computer ??

Your old card is a AGP slot card and therefore you need to buy a new card that will fit that type of slot. You didnt mention what you bought but it was probably a PCI-e x16 graphics card. From what Ive read ATI has the best selection of AGP cards at the moment.

ATI AGP cards
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... &subid=403

nvidia AGP cards
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... &subid=411

Reviews of AGP cards and Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gra ... 942-6.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gra ... 942-7.html

John

The 7900 is good dunno why but my mates one tads also on the forum his out performed my 8800.

CaptScarlet wrote:Your old card is a AGP slot card and therefore you need to buy a new card that will fit that type of slot. You didnt mention what you bought but it was probably a PCI-e x16 graphics card. From what Ive read ATI has the best selection of AGP cards at the moment.

ATI AGP cards
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... &subid=403

nvidia AGP cards
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... &subid=411

Reviews of AGP cards and Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gra ... 942-6.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gra ... 942-7.html

John

Thank You So Much John And I Will Be Purchising A New Graphics Card

Just A Quick Scan Through Them And I Obviously Want A Decent One So I Went For The Most Expensive One There
This Doesnt Have The Three Slots I Was On About But Will It Still Fit ?

speedydb9 wrote: This Doesnt Have The Three Slots I Was On About But Will It Still Fit ?

Check your motherboard manual ( if you have it ) and make sure it has a AGP graphics slot, if it does then it should fit.

John

overmarze wrote:The 7900 is good dunno why but my mates one tads also on the forum his out performed my 8800.

I'm so... getting that one!!

Cheers,
Mike

Could i suggest getting a large vehicle, preferably an M1 Abrams tank and driving over the FX5200 until it is crushed into a fine dust and blows away in the wind.

I have the Gainward Series 7800 512mb, but RS still judders.

Tazman

overmarze wrote:The 7900 is good dunno why but my mates one tads also on the forum his out performed my 8800.

Then you obviously have something seriously wrong with your setup. The 8800 is at least twice the behemoth that the 7900 is. I should know I upgraded from a 7900.

Hi Overmarze,Iv'e often though there could be something up when you used to post shots over at Auran forums with the FPS included in your shots,it was way below what you would expect from an 8800,is it the 320M one or the 640M?,i cant seem to remember?.I forgot to mention last night,did you say 12fps or was that a typo and should be 120fps?

IIRC your card has 96 pipelines,64 GB/second memory bandwidth,the 7900 has 20 pipelines with around 44-46 GB/second depending on memory and make,your card should be way faster.

Daz

I been messing with the defaults in the NVidia settings control panel.... i should have made a note what the defaults where.

Doh!

Well the 320MB/640MB 8800GTS are not as good as the G92 8800GT 512 or the 8800GTS 512, but it should still kill a 7900 easily.

From my bitter experience with Graphics Cards, my Machine and KRS. I have learned several things. If the Graphics Card is one of the 8000 series this in theory should out perform my lowly 7600gs. I have always been puzzled with Overmarze mentioning poor performance from his GPU. I don't know what CPU he has.
My 7600gs performs pretty well now even on the latest Power thingy Class 66 Scenario on the Paddington line with everything on high and switched on apart from detailed shadows. No Judders.
The things that most effects my KRS performance is how defragmented the drive with Railsim on is. In this case my D Drive. If I have worked on my Route 0.2% defragmentation is enough to drop my framerates by 10fps and produce Judder. My main Drive C also needs regular defrags to keep KRS running smoothly. The built in XP defragmentor doesn't do a good enough job and sometimes can make things worse. Perfect Disk 2008 free for 30 days http://www.raxco.com/ is the best one I have tried. I liked it so much I bought the company the program really. ( for those of us old enough to remember the Victor Kyam.)
If you have HP Imaging Software a stealthy part of this interferes with the way the program loads and results in erratic performance. I don't know how it does this but there could be other processes on peoples machines which do something similar.
Windows Defender knocks framerates by 12 or more fps if it is switched on and monitoring. Other background processes seem to have less effect and it is worth trying out a variety of setups here depending on what your PC needs to run to keep it stable.
The GPU settings, Drivers and the Multisampling set in the game in the start option play a major part.
Multisampling set to zero on my machine makes the game unplayable. 3 seems to be the best setting for me. This will vary on other machines and it is worth experimenting with.
Page Files are next mine runs best with a fixed sized large file on Drive D and letting the OS control the PF on Drive C which holds XP.
Finally a build up of Dust inside the machine can cause problems. A can of Compressed Air is needed here. No Hoovering.
For full information there are a variety of topics on here related to my problems which have an abundance of good advice and solutions. What I am saying is that any of the Graphics Cards Tested by Kuju with KRS should be able to run the program well and a decent 7000 series and upwards Card should not be immeadiately blamed for poor performance. My old machine with an FX5200 ran KRS better than my Latest Machine until I had gone through weeks of messing about as described above.
Regards James.

Have a amd x 2 266ghz Its not poor performance its just were the boards load up.