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new Physx drivers

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:28 pm
by smarty2
here are the latest drivers for the Physx engine, it is compatible with both Xp and Vista http://www.nvidia.com/object/ageia_8.04.25_whql.html

Cheers Mart

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:19 am
by daniellouwrens1
Hi

I have seen the Physx icon on the KRS intro, but what is it, is it a different card, a property of the graphics
card or is it a card to be used with the graphics card.

Will it improve FPS?

thanks

Daniel

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:18 am
by CaptScarlet
daniellouwrens1 wrote:Hi

I have seen the Physx icon on the KRS intro, but what is it, is it a different card, a property of the graphics
card or is it a card to be used with the graphics card.

Will it improve FPS?

thanks

Daniel
Ageia Physx is two things, a software physics engine ( which RS uses ) and or a add on card that can offload the physics calculations fronm the CPU. A game has to be written to use the software or the add on card and it's is debatable on the benefits of the card. Having said that nvidia has bought Ageia and is going to allow the physics to be done on a extra graphics card in the future.

John

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:30 am
by RiscaStation
smarty2 wrote:here are the latest drivers for the Physx engine for nvidia users, it is compatible with both Xp and Vista http://www.nvidia.com/object/ageia_8.04.25_whql.html

Cheers Mart
Hi

Downloaded this update and installed only to find I lost routes. Good job I had backups of "Rail Sim".
Deleted the update and installed the original. Caution is the order of the day if want to install the above.

Best regards
Mike

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:38 am
by smarty2
RiscaStation wrote:
smarty2 wrote:here are the latest drivers for the Physx engine for nvidia users, it is compatible with both Xp and Vista http://www.nvidia.com/object/ageia_8.04.25_whql.html

Cheers Mart
Hi

Downloaded this update and installed only to find I lost routes. Good job I had backups of "Rail Sim".
Deleted the update and installed the original. Caution is the order of the day if want to install the above.

Best regards
Mike
Blimey Mike, had no such problems with my installation :o Thanks for bringing it up though, Cheers, P.S i would like to know why RS is sooo temperamental :roll:

Mart

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:37 am
by BobLatimer
I just backed up my whole Rail Simulator folder and installed the new Physx drivers. Didn't lose any routes and everything appears to be okay. I suspect something else caused you to lose your routes.

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:08 am
by boleyd
Just loading drivers with no idea of their positive or negative impact makes me nervous. I would like RS to come out and tell us if there is a benefit. As one person has had a problem others may also with no apparent improvements in the end. Yes, the problem may be of their own making but why take the risk when the benefit is unknown?

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:46 pm
by smarty2
boleyd wrote:Just loading drivers with no idea of their positive or negative impact makes me nervous. I would like RS to come out and tell us if there is a benefit. As one person has had a problem others may also with no apparent improvements in the end. Yes, the problem may be of their own making but why take the risk when the benefit is unknown?
Hi, i have downloaded graphics drivers that have had a negative impact and have had to roll them back, but we are always advised to upgrade them by software houses and hardware manufacturers, but not all improvements maybe apparent except the most obvious..... sytem stability! You pays your money you makes your choice :wink: The other thing to note is that RS is not responsible for the inner workings of the graphics engine Nvidia are so i should ask them!

Mart

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:16 pm
by RiscaStation
smarty2 wrote:
boleyd wrote:Just loading drivers with no idea of their positive or negative impact makes me nervous. I would like RS to come out and tell us if there is a benefit. As one person has had a problem others may also with no apparent improvements in the end. Yes, the problem may be of their own making but why take the risk when the benefit is unknown?
Hi, i have downloaded graphics drivers that have had a negative impact and have had to roll them back, but we are always advised to upgrade them by software houses and hardware manufacturers, but not all improvements maybe apparent except the most obvious..... sytem stability! You pays your money you makes your choice :wink: The other thing to note is that RS is not responsible for the inner workings of the graphics engine Nvidia are so i should ask them!

Mart
Hi Mart

I agree with what you say, you do take your chances. If version 6.10.25, I believe, was used when designing the game then what benefits are to be gained from upgrading. Is it worth the hassle?
In my case I just as well leave the version the game came with as it is. It runs and that is all that should matter IMHO.

Best regards
Mike

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:51 pm
by CaptScarlet
RiscaStation wrote:If version 6.10.25, I believe, was used when designing the game then what benefits are to be gained from upgrading. Is it worth the hassle?
In my case I just as well leave the version the game came with as it is. It runs and that is all that should matter IMHO.

Best regards
Mike
The benefit you might gain is improved stability, performance and or bug fixes ( just like any driver upgrade ) which is more important in the case of any new technology.

John

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:39 pm
by scooby1066
I have an ATI card but used the drivers on the link to update my Ageia Physx software. I think Nvidia have taken over the company but the software although now owned by Nvidia is not exclusively for their cards. My experience is that they are still independent of the the card manufacture. This is the second time I have updated the Ageia Physx software but the first since they went to Nvidia.

No problems.

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:28 pm
by daniellouwrens1
Ageia Physx is two things, a software physics engine ( which RS uses ) and or a add on card that can offload the physics calculations fronm the CPU. A game has to be written to use the software or the add on card and it's is debatable on the benefits of the card. Having said that nvidia has bought Ageia and is going to allow the physics to be done on a extra graphics card in the future.

John
Thanks, what is the situation with RS, will a Physx card be a benefit?

thanks

Daniel

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:08 pm
by smarty2
scooby1066 wrote:I have an ATI card but used the drivers on the link to update my Ageia Physx software. I think Nvidia have taken over the company but the software although now owned by Nvidia is not exclusively for their cards. My experience is that they are still independent of the the card manufacture. This is the second time I have updated the Ageia Physx software but the first since they went to Nvidia.

No problems.
Hi scoob, have amended my post, cheers

Mart

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:11 pm
by smarty2
Hi everyone take a look at this, not sure if it is caused by the new drivers? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-X0HCVDESJY Keep an eye on the wagons and you will see they are moving about whilst stationary :o

Mart :roll:

Re: new Physx drivers

Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:11 am
by rogertra
All I know about it is that it caused my game to crash yesterday, when it had been running fine up until then.

I fired up the game and before it would even load I got a "(Null) PhysXLoader.Dll" error. It had never done that before.

After an hour of trying various fixes, I had to resort to uninstalling and reinstalling the game. And we all know how long that takes.