Mysterious observations from KRS

[Retro]

Thanks for all the replies I am quite overwhelmed at the response. It looks like it could be an issue with my machine then and not the program. For Adam I thought this most of the time. I am not blaming Rail Simulator.
The motherboard AFAIK is Assus Multisampling is set at 0 Anti Alaiasing decided by programs not sure about Antisotropic filtering though. Page file is set by the machine.
For John the link seems to be inavalid and I would like to get this utility.
The OS is Windows XP MCE 2005 edition
I will need to get back on any items I have forgotton in this post to answer
Thanks for all your replies, suggestions and help. They are much appreciated and I will try some of them out tommorow.
Kind Regards James.

[CaptScarlet]

For John the link seems to be inavalid and I would like to get this utility.

Sorry http://downloads.guru3d.com/Generic-Utilities_c8.html , its 1/4 way down the page and is called Guru3D - Driver Sweeper ( Setup ). Strangely the original link wont display correctly .
John

[Retro]

Thanks John got the program and will give it a try tomorrow.
Kind Regards James.

[exshunter]

I have 2 8800gtx 's in sli with latest drivers etc and it stutters, so i wouldn't bother upgrading graphics card.

[Retro]

I have 2 8800gtx 's in sli with latest drivers etc and it stutters, so i wouldn't bother upgrading graphics card.

Hi this is exactly what is worrying me about upgrading. A number of people on here have said much the same as you are saying. If I had Intended to get a new machine that would be fine. But I am not buying a new one for one program. As for an upgrade I am unsure as to what my power supply will handle. I think I read something like 2 amps for each Item installed. So if a new card needs more amps than this, needs an extra slot for a separate fan or is to bulky to fit in the space provided then I am still wasting my money. I fear the machine will only cope with the Seven series GPU's so upgrading to another of the same series is hardly worth it. I still cannot understand why it was working Ok before I added a little texture to Either side of the tracks. Someone else pointed out that they have the same GPU as I do and can run it on High settings. Mine will only run on medium.
I am again beginning to wonder about this problem because I have just tried FS9 with all the stops out and Justflights AI Traffic 2005 program at 70%. from Manchester Airport on the ground. ( not the default version but Gary Summon's detailed add on). Taxi to the runway planes landing every few minutes and waiting in a line of 15 Aircraft each one taking off and moving up the line until I got to the runway for take off clearance. Taking off with real weather downloaded and no stuttering or jerking at all. The temperature of the GPU only went up by 4 degrees from normal.
Baffled. Regards James.

[exshunter]

Well hopefully RSDL will look into the problem and resolve the stuttering that so many seem to be experiencing . It really is frustrating though, i can run every other game i have,maxed out with no stutters at all (Crisis , Bioshock COD4 etc) but Rail Simulator -no chance! I remain positive though! so hang on in there James, it may be resolved in a future update......

[overmarze]

At the end of the day every rail sim Msts Trainz Classics and Railsimulator have also had stuttering problems.

[Retro]

Thanks for your encouragement. I will hang on in but will not work on my Route again until I have solved this problem if it's my machine that's at fault. Bioshock needs a pretty good setup so I am told. If a machine can run that it should be able to run anything you throw at it.
Kind Regards James

[CaptScarlet]

Thanks for your encouragement. I will hang on in but will not work on my Route again until I have solved this problem if it's my machine that's at fault. Bioshock needs a pretty good setup so I am told. If a machine can run that it should be able to run anything you throw at it.
Kind Regards James

Something I don't think you mentioned, but what is the performance like on the default routes, has it got worse as well ?

John

[Acorncomputer]

I have never experienced particularly bad stuttering but there is no doubt that when this does happen, it exactly coincides with hard disc activity which in my own technically challenged way suggests that the processor is transferring its priority to loading info from the hard disc and away from the screen. I do not understand how the graphics card works as a part of the overall system but this is clearly what is happening. I guess that the program is looking ahead as to what needs to be loaded for the next section of track, so perhaps this process can be fine tuned in the program to look further ahead and load at a slower rate.

As already mentioned, stuttering has not been a major problem for me but I am intrigued by Adams comment that he has none at all. What are the specs and setting of your machines Adam as this may be a help to us all.

I tried MSTS again last night and stuttered all the way out of a station so MSTS in no better in respect of this particular 'problem'.

I do get quite low frame rates at times, perhaps lower than the minimum shown of 14, but as mentioned by others, the flow is still quite smooth and quite acceptable.

As Adam has already indicated, there are vast numbers of different computer and software specifications being used and it is impossible to say how these will affect a particular game but somewhere in the not too distant future, I think an answer will be found - I am the eternal optimist and anyway, it is only just a game!

Keep at it James. You have been building your route for a long time and like most other people replying in this thread, I think it is just a computer problem that you are experiencing at the moment. You may not be able to run your route yourself at the moment but others will be able to so and your time will only have been wasted if you do not share your efforts with others. I will keep an eye out for more screenshots in your other thread from time to time.

Finally, I have the same graphics card as James with a slightly smaller single core processor and the game runs OK but is there a possibility here that the introduction of multicore processors and super graphics cards are actually the problem and they simply do not work properly - full stop. It does seem that low spec machines actually run the game quite well.

Geoff Potter

[Retro]

John it does not perform well on the Default Routes ATM. I had to lower my settings when I installed the game to run well on the Paddington Route. It is not the odd stutter you get when the HD is loading new sections of scenery, I can tolerate that. It is actually jerking all the time and no smooth movement transitions at all. It is marginally better on the outside view.
The question I would have for RSDL is that if you cover over the new "problem" textures I have with the Green Grass default texture is it adding another layer or stripping off the texture to take it back to the default green and does the gravel or other textures build up many layers or just cover the default green in one go. I first had this problem after applying textures around the track and I still thing this is a key issue. Some textures like concrete cover an area very quickly and others need 3 or 4 passes to cover.
Geoff Multicore CPU's are known to cause problems with The Sims2 performance and you may be heading down the right path here. I only know of one program that makes full use of Multicore CPU's and that is FSX with an update designed to improve performance by using the extra core's.
The computer with the FX5200 I tested KRS on to compare was a single core CPU.
Thanks all for your continued help and support
Kind Regards James

[CaptScarlet]

John it does not perform well on the Default Routes ATM. I had to lower my settings when I installed the game to run well on the Paddington Route. It is not the odd stutter you get when the HD is loading new sections of scenery, I can tolerate that. It is actually jerking all the time and no smooth movement transitions at all. It is marginally better on the outside view.

Kind Regards James

James could you post a picture of your graphical settings in RS as well as a picture or two if necessary to get it all the railsim profile and global profile of your nvidia control panel ? Also you said you motherboard is a Asus but you didnt mention the name of the board.

John

[Retro]

Hi John,
I cannot find information on the board name ATM. I have done the following screenshots as requested.















I don't know if any of the above will help because I don't know much about the ins and outs of GPU's
Thanks and Regards James.

[CaptScarlet]

James, where did you get the graphics drivers from ?

John

[rabid]

Looks like you have a pretty old video driver there James.
The latest is v169.21.

Have you tried a newer version?

David