Digital Traction announces new loco.

[SavV1]

I find it amazing we can not even give things away without someone having a pop at RSDL.
derek

But that's how this system seems to work, all the way back to 2001.... theres contructive feedback, then there's bashing. A lot of bashing... I know, I've been 'round the TS scene longer than I care to think about...

[Blackpatch]

Does 'you can't please all the poeple all the time' sound a familiar phrase?

[RiscaStation]

Pete, I'm not sure I follow you.
What do you want the guy who creates scenarios to do? I have him working on a new route but thought it would be nice to spend a few hours each week making a few new scenarios to give out.

I find it amazing we can not even give things away without someone having a pop at RSDL.

Derek

Hi Derek

Perhaps this is down to frustration with the Sim. I realise that there is a lot of work going into producing a modern rail simulator. The expectation of a great new rail Sim has been set back by bugs. I think you would agree there are so many, as my cousin would say, I could drive my Hummer through them.
Lets hope that when the patch is made available it will put the sim where it should be no1.

Best regards

Mike

[peteworsley]

I apologise for taking this thread off-topic, and have removed my comment criticising Rail Simulator.

I am obviously too thick to realise how perfect it actually is.

PW

[phill70]

Am I alone in thinking RSDL ought to be concentrating on other matters?

To quote RSWinston (Churchill) - "Give us the tools, and we will finish the job".

Best wishes

Pete W

Never heard of multi-tasking?

Pete
There is no point in removing your comment, when someone has quoted it

Lets let it rest now.

[steve1023]

Did these engines appear on the S&D at all?

Hello Steve,

Yes, the Standard 4 tanks did appear on the S&D, late-in-the-day, in 1965. This was at the suggestion of Donald Beale. There are plenty of pics around of them, including some in The Somerset & Dorset in the Sixties, Volume Four - 1963-66, by Ivo Peters.

A couple of pics here too, just to start you all off looking . http://www.bethanyjunction.co.uk/RailwayS&D.htm, and here http://www.sdrt.org/images_sdjr_01/0311 ... in1965.jpg

Very Best Wishes,
Bob.

Thanks Bob. I'll probably buy it when becomes available.

Steve

[AndiS]

Sorry to add another off-topic comment to the burning issue that Pete touched.
I just need to say that quite a few people who seem to be bashing KRS are in fact painfully searching for ways to enjoy it and make it usable for their purpose. We might underestimate the means of RSDL, and there might be a host of apt programmers already working on the code, in parallel to the effort of the artists. But if you can't have them both, please fire the artists and hire all the code gurus you can get. Of course, this is an overly blunt statement -- I know. But why can't the guy who does the next scenario instead write a tutorial on crossovers in curves, which is exhaustive and helps many users. And what about a master index for all the many PDF files?

Of course, it sounds ungrateful to say such things, and I admit that maroon engines make me happy, too. But I would immediately swap them for an AI driver who does not idle in front of clear signals, or a way to determine (in a signal script) whether the coming train is going to shunt, or terminate, or pass on. Not to mention some form of timetables. I know that these things are more expensive than scenarios and reskins, but they are what is crippling KRS right now, not the lack of scenarios. But then again, that is my personal opinion, other people might be hungry for scenarios. But then again, there is a number of people in the scenario forum wanting to create them and failing, the total output would be better if they would get whatever they need, which can be tutorials or workarounds or patches, or all of that at best.

[RSderek]

I'm sure the artists will be pleased to read your comments Andis...
*update
ok, grump over.

Rest assured the are team working hard on all aspects of RS.
regards
derek

[CaptScarlet]

I actually appreciate the scenarios and locos the RSDL have been giving away for free and I see it as a good thing to be doing especially in the early days of the sim when people are still getting to grips with its idiosyncrasies etc.

John

[jimmyshand]

To the RSDL team, please don't get too down at any negative comments being made, most are constructive rather than malicious. I think RS is a fantastic sim and I am in it for the long haul. It has plenty of things that bug me at the moment but they do not detach from the fact that this is in my opinion the number one train sim and is slowly getting better.
At the request of my 6 year old son I re-installed MSTS last week as he wanted to mess around with loads of different locos, in doing so I was reminded of why I uninstalled it back in November, it's been superseded by the far better Rail Simulator!! When my son turned his back I uninstalled it again!!
Keep up the good work Derek and the RSDL team, it is a super product. I think because it's been released when MSTS was at its peak with no bugs and flooded with every type of train imaginable that people expected RS to hit the ground running at the same point. I for one will feel much better when the first new locos and proper routes (no disrespect to those that have already tried) appear. That's when I think the floodgates will open and the fun will really begin

RS rules!!!

[tads1970]

Lol...Maroon locos,can't really knock anything that's free.What we get of RSDL is allot more than MSTS provided in the first few month's,same as the support when folk's run into trouble trying to achieve something,Derek alway's does his best to answer,one to one support,never seen this from any software company.
As for the scenario creation,maybe somebody who's made one can write a guide,if all goes well make into a sticky.

Daz

[TrueScotsman]

On the topic of DT they say that third party scenarios could be affected after the patch which they say is coming out mid-February

http://digitaltraction.net/joomla/index ... 7&Itemid=1

[AndiS]

I'm sure the artists will be pleased to read your comments Andis...

I know, I am harsh on the artist here. I can only hope they read the "But if you can't have them both" and "Of course, this is an overly blunt statement", too.

They are an integral part of my statement.

If you are working hard on all aspects of RS, it is the best we can get, of course.

[jamespetts]

Sorry to add another off-topic comment to the burning issue that Pete touched.
I just need to say that quite a few people who seem to be bashing KRS are in fact painfully searching for ways to enjoy it and make it usable for their purpose. We might underestimate the means of RSDL, and there might be a host of apt programmers already working on the code, in parallel to the effort of the artists. But if you can't have them both, please fire the artists and hire all the code gurus you can get. Of course, this is an overly blunt statement -- I know. But why can't the guy who does the next scenario instead write a tutorial on crossovers in curves, which is exhaustive and helps many users. And what about a master index for all the many PDF files?

Of course, it sounds ungrateful to say such things, and I admit that maroon engines make me happy, too. But I would immediately swap them for an AI driver who does not idle in front of clear signals, or a way to determine (in a signal script) whether the coming train is going to shunt, or terminate, or pass on. Not to mention some form of timetables. I know that these things are more expensive than scenarios and reskins, but they are what is crippling KRS right now, not the lack of scenarios. But then again, that is my personal opinion, other people might be hungry for scenarios. But then again, there is a number of people in the scenario forum wanting to create them and failing, the total output would be better if they would get whatever they need, which can be tutorials or workarounds or patches, or all of that at best.

I fully agree with this well-considered comment. This is no criticism to the artists themselves, who seem to be doing an excellent job in their own right; but it must be very frustrating for them to be producing content for a simulator that is, as Andi quite accurately writes, crippled, by bugs and missing critical features. No doubt, they want their creations to be enjoyed in a simulation that works and brings joy to those who use it so that they can be fully appreciated: I am afraid that that is rather far from the case now. We can but reserve judgment on what the situation will be an upgrade or two into the future.

[Easilyconfused]

You are entitled to your opinion James but I do find both AndiS and your attitudes somewhat objectionable. I don't consider AndiS post "well considered" either - it is a rant but since I was the only moderator around when I saw it I did not follow up on it.

I can see from your profile and putting your public details into Google that you are clearly an intelligent person who is doing great work in the legal fields.

However, having seen what Matt was showing yesterday with the narrow gauge stuff at the UKTSlive show at Leamington I think there is clearly great potential in RS.

Kindest regards

John