Oops, they've done it again

A brand new simulator announced from Microsoft based on the Flight Sim X engine. Note: Microsoft closed the ACES Studio on 23rd January 2009 thus terminating this product along with other Simulation products -Flight Sim and ESP.

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Oops, they've done it again

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like you can kiss TS2 goodbye.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... tory=21981

If I sound smug, well I've got nothing to be smug about because I was of those who lost my job at Microsoft today.
At least I've now got plenty of time to spend building content for Rail Simulator.
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I'm sorry to hear of your layoff, Kevin. Hopefully, things will turn around for you soon.

As for TS2, yes, it's not looking too good right now. :(
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Thanks, I might end up moving back to California for some sun. Redmond weather is too much like England!
Some good friends, and colleagues of mine at Aces were hit, and it has occurred to me that they might set up an independent studio to complete the project.
I'm having lunch with on of them tomorrow, and I'll let you now what I find out, if I'm allowed to.
At least you now know why ACE went silent recently.
3DTrains wrote:I'm sorry to hear of your layoff, Kevin. Hopefully, things will turn around for you soon.

As for TS2, yes, it's not looking too good right now. :(
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Nice, sunny and warm here, Kevin. :)

It would be interesting to see the project completed independent of MS. Wasn't ACES independent at one time, or has it always been an MS group?
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Don't remind me! :)

That right, Aces was once independent, and since Microsoft recently closed Ensemble in Dallas, a core team went off to work on an MS project, which is why I think it's possible this might happen at Aces. However I think it is more likely that a team will be set up to create expansion packs for Flight Simulator, but we'll just have to wait and see.
3DTrains wrote:Nice, sunny and warm here, Kevin. :)

It would be interesting to see the project completed independent of MS. Wasn't ACES independent at one time, or has it always been an MS group?
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Train Simulator Fans spurned........Hell will hath no fury to compare! (If the rumours are true.)

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Kevin, my condolences......I've been made redundant before and know the feeling. I wish you all the very best for the future.

It would be nice of MS to 'fess up and make a definitive statement on the future of the sim.

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Thanks Baz!
There will probably be an announcement about Train Simulator 2 in the next few days.
I can't say more, because I'm still subject to an NDA.

CaptainBazza wrote:Kevin, my condolences......I've been made redundant before and know the feeling. I wish you all the very best for the future.

It would be nice of MS to 'fess up and make a definitive statement on the future of the sim.

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Kevin, thanks for posting. I've been through the situation you're in and it wasn't fun.

Regarding MSTS2, it sure isn't looking good but we'll have to wait for further news to know for sure.

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Sorry to hear of your layoff, Kevin, and your colleagues too.

Let's hope if MSTS2 is canned it can either be released to be finished independently, or revived in a year or two if/when the global economy recovers.

Sobering times ahead.
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Thanks Vern,
The project had progressed so far, that it's tragedy that it was canned.er, I mean, might be canned.
I was lucky enough to to be given the opportunity to play some earlier builds, and it had a lot of cool features. Tracklaying for example, would have been a cinch.
in the summer of 2007 I worked at Aces doing research for the Horseshoe curve route, and got to know it pretty well, even though I'd never been there.
the screenshots released after I left were very convincing representation of the route.
I can't believe all that work was for nothing, and I hope it will resurface in the future in one form or another.

bigvern wrote:Sorry to hear of your layoff, Kevin, and your colleagues too.

Let's hope if MSTS2 is canned it can either be released to be finished independently, or revived in a year or two if/when the global economy recovers.

Sobering times ahead.
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Good luck with finding something new Kevin - Go and work for Marc in Florida, it's warm there :)
There was a huge amount of programming and modelling went on at MS.

What might have been? (and without definite news what still could be some day)
http://www.gtraxsims.com/
Have a look at the cab ride video.

Time to work on getting Rail Sim into shape!
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Hi Kevin

I am very sorry to hear of your job loss.
Please keep in touch with us and your contributions, particularly to Rail Simulator, are very much appreciated.
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decapod wrote: Time to work on getting Rail Sim into shape!
Good luck Paul.. :lol:

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Seeing that I've now got a lot of spare time one my hands, stand by for a flurry of uploads.
I've got no excuse to not finish the Saddle Tank!
By the way, despite knowing there were going to be layoffs at Aces, I was totally taken aback by the scale of the cuts.
I suspect that those who are left, will be absorbed into the Windows group, and Aces will be no more.
But that is just a theory.

Decapod - thanks for the The Gtraxsims link. Those US steam locos are very impressive, despite being pig ugly!
Britain didn't make the biggest, or most powerful steam locos, but we sure did make the prettiest!

Acorncomputer wrote:Hi Kevin

I am very sorry to hear of your job loss.
Please keep in touch with us and your contributions, particularly to Rail Simulator, are very much appreciated.
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