08 distance travel

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If an 08 max speed is 15 mph, how did they get them from Derby (which I think is where they were built) to, say, Scotland?

Night train?

[jp4712]

Usually as part of a slow freight train, with coupling rods disconnected and put in a wagon.

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de-meshed? Does that give them 25mph? A driver told me any faster and they'd be seriously damaged.

[kingsgate]

25mph would be about right for slow goods trains in that era, remember.

Tor-K

[Ghostcav]

Correct on the demeshing, then marshalled in a class 9 unfitted or semi fitted freight where 25mph would be about the top speed. Of course these days we don't have class 9 freights so transport by road seems the only option.
As a side note, when I worked Birmingham New st PSB in the early 90's we had two 08's as station pilots One West pilot the other East. We used to swap these over every now & then for some reason I can't recall. As we always seemed to have to have bonnet end a certain way it meant they travelled out of new street station, down Soho/Perry bar lines, round the Grand Junction lines through Aston/Duddeston & Vauxhall through proof house jcn & back into New street station or vice versa for the other one. They went under there own power & even though we did it on nights it still managed to hammer everything else in the area. I can still remember watching the track circuits lit for ages in each section, wondering if the jocko had failed or something...........15mph takes forever to watch!

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That's an intersting reply, ghostcav.

I've wondered for years how they moved 'em.

Wonder how many 'hours' the oldest of the 08's have done, 20,000+?

[Easilyconfused]

I would have thought it to be much higher than that.

According to my reference book they were delivered from 1953 onwards so the oldest ones are pushing 56 years old. Assume for the hardest worked they did 8 hour days 5 days per week (that doesn't include night shifts or weekends) and you have well over 100,000 hours on some of them. Others clearly were never worked that hard spending long periods shut down.

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100,000 is some rrunning, believable. I've heard most loco's are unlikely too get certificates after 12,000+ hrs.

'Out of hours' as they say.

Paul

[salopiangrowler]

i remember 37372 with 4 09's going through tamworth at what would be like 60mph all coupling rods disconnected.

[ka959]

If an 08 max speed is 15 mph, how did they get them from Derby (which I think is where they were built) to, say, Scotland?

Night train?

Probably removed the coupling rods and towed them from the Works on a slow freight train maybe ?

Regards...

Jim McDermott

[bigben5051]

This may be of some interest to you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8haxlP-mNLo

Ben

[Ghostcav]

i remember 37372 with 4 09's going through tamworth at what would be like 60mph all coupling rods disconnected.

Strewth!!! I bet that guy got a severe talking to when they found 4 09's with melted hornblocks. Would be lucky for a gronk to stay upright at that speed, they do after all have a very short wheelbase & are not the most stable of things anyway.

[salopiangrowler]

the 37 was on full power at the time and doing alot more than 25.

They were going to EMR kingsbury iirc

They were bouncing abit

[phill70]

09's can do 27mph under there own steam, even then they bounce all over the place.

Being towed at 60 you might just get away with that on the straight, but as soon as you hit any point work, one would be in the dirt.

Moved to real railways.