Adelantes

photons66 · Post by **photons66** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:28 pm

I was at Ealing Broadway station today and I never saw one Adelante on a service. Any ideas why please?

shebarose · Post by **shebarose** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:32 pm

There all gone to Hull Trains.

photons66 · Post by **photons66** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:35 pm

So which class of DMU is diagrammed for the Hereford/Great Malvern/Golden Valley routes then?????

Pompeyfan · Post by **Pompeyfan** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:41 pm

photons66 wrote:So which class of DMU is diagrammed for the Hereford/Great Malvern/Golden Valley routes then?????

HST's and 2x165s....

JSReeves86 · Post by **JSReeves86** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:50 pm

FGW are retaining 3 180s until they get the HST from NXEC in December, the 3 180s will be used in a 180+180 formation, with the other one as a spare.

photons66 · Post by **photons66** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:53 pm

It seems a shame because I used to like going on those trains, meandering their way through the Coptswold Line,.

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:53 am

Why are FGW getting rid of the Adelente's, when they were raving about how good they are a few years back?

Think I saw one at Bristol Temple Meads last Sunday. Only saw it breifly for a few seconds while coming into the station on another train. So couldn't see for sure if it was an Adelente or an HST. Looked like one to me though. If it was, it would have worked the 2000 service to London Paddington.

Pompeyfan · Post by **Pompeyfan** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:24 pm

XPTE wrote:Why are FGW getting rid of the Adelente's, when they were raving about how good they are a few years back?

Think I saw one at Bristol Temple Meads last Sunday. Only saw it breifly for a few seconds while coming into the station on another train. So couldn't see for sure if it was an Adelente or an HST. Looked like one to me though. If it was, it would have worked the 2000 service to London Paddington.

leaseing companies i beleive, and relibility issuses..

enotayokel · Post by **enotayokel** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:52 pm

High costs.

I can't remember the exact figures but a 5 car 180 costs more to run in maintainance, fuel and leasing then a 2+8 HST

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:12 pm

because FGW have woken up to the idea that underfloor engines are ill-suited to the work they gave them?

Also, being built at Washwood Heath, they are as well put together as everything built just down the road in Longbridge...

photons66 · Post by **photons66** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:12 pm

Is this all because that Pioneer fell of the jacks?

TheAmateurBasher · Post by **TheAmateurBasher** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:46 pm

There were three or four of them sighted at a depot near Wolverhampton last night. No numbers or photos unfortunately.

TheAmateurBasher · Post by **TheAmateurBasher** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:47 pm

photons66 wrote:Is this all because that Pioneer fell of the jacks?

It is, and it's also the reason why 86101 Sir William A Stanier FRS has been at work for Hull trains for a good few months. Sadly I think that's over now.

ArrivaTrains · Post by **ArrivaTrains** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:50 am

Regarding entry into service with HT, thefirst set was due to be in service this week on the busiest trains, notably the 06:25 from Hull.

This has been put back by at least a week, because not enough staff are trained up on the units yet.

I'll keep you informed

photons66 · Post by **photons66** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:00 am

Why can't Hull Trains finance production of more Pioneer units then?

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