End of the buffet car

[AlistairW]

Trent Barton are a very good bus company, although their own tag line is

"Trent Barton, The REALLY good bus company" which is a bit much lol.

Too expensive mind, £3.40 for a day return to Derby (about a 12 mile trip) and thats after 9am as well! The night busses are good as well, have saved me a small fortune on taxis.

[45002]

emm How much is their Premium again?

I dont think ? the Premium cover's Buffet cars

MARTIN

[enotayokel]

Trent Barton are a very good bus company, although their own tag line is

"Trent Barton, The REALLY good bus company" which is a bit much lol.

Too expensive mind, £3.40 for a day return to Derby (about a 12 mile trip) and thats after 9am as well! The night busses are good as well, have saved me a small fortune on taxis.

Thats good Its £5.40 for the 15 mile trip to Exeter from here with Stagecoach

[johncard]

Trent Barton are a very good bus company, although their own tag line is

"Trent Barton, The REALLY good bus company" which is a bit much lol.

Too expensive mind, £3.40 for a day return to Derby (about a 12 mile trip) and thats after 9am as well! The night busses are good as well, have saved me a small fortune on taxis.

According to Google it's 8.8 miles Thirsk to Northallerton (excluding a couple of detours). £4.10 rtn.
13.2 miles Easingwold to York. £4.10 rtn.

I'm gonna have to write to my MP about this. Or are you..... a student?

[AlistairW]

lol, I am a student but I don't get a discount (scandal). I guess my 13 mile round trip (just checked on Google) for £3.40 isn't too bad then!

Back on topic, how will removing the buffet cars from the HST's create more seats anyway as I'd assume they'd take the entire carriage out in a MK3 and window alingment won't work for a seating bays.

Also how serious is overcrowding on MML services? I rarely use them at peak times and if I do its usually Sheffield/Derby which is at the start or end of it's journey.

Cheers,
Ali

[mattvince]

emm How much is their Premium again?

I dont think ? the Premium cover's Buffet cars

Buffet cars do cost money - in terms of stocking, crewing and the weight and space of them (half a Mk3 worth of seating, and about two extra tonnes into the bargain). The choice which Stagecoach has made is that the marginal revenue from the buffet (both in terms of counter sales and passengers choosing to travel by train in order to eat en-route) is outweighed by those costs, and therefore the buffet is reducing the amount of profit which it could offer as a premium to the government in the great franchising farce. And the number is £133m (Net Present Value) - bear in mind East Midlands has a large regional element, besides the MML high-speed services.

* mutters something about faceless, soulless Civil Servants in Ivory Towers *

[WSR2005]

Trent Barton are a very good bus company, although their own tag line is

"Trent Barton, The REALLY good bus company" which is a bit much lol.

Too expensive mind, £3.40 for a day return to Derby (about a 12 mile trip) and thats after 9am as well! The night busses are good as well, have saved me a small fortune on taxis.

Thats good Its £5.40 for the 15 mile trip to Exeter from here with Stagecoach

Starting to get a bit off topic, but it would probably cost me more than that to get from here to Torquay, about a 15 minute ride. I have to ration my bus trips now I'm supposedly an adult

Tim

[AlistairW]

Final bit off topic,

I felt quite a few people had thoughts about bus fares so I've created a separate thread in the Open Forum.
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73523

Cheers,
Ali

[johncard]

Final bit off topic,

I felt quite a few people had thoughts about bus fares so I've created a separate thread in the Open Forum.
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73523

Cheers,
Ali

Final reply to final bit OT - maybe all the bus-related posts from here could be moved to your thread? Having said that there is a road transport forum although few people seem to post in there lol.

[thegoonden]

I'm not really coping with how upset some of you are.

If we were talking about the loss of a facility that served reasonably priced, tasty, fresh food, I could understand.

But losing the joy of paying £12 for 2 pieces of polystyerene surrounding a thin veneer of reconstituted porcine extremities, a snot in a scab and some warm fizzy water with bone leeching agents, yous are barmy! [1]

Get yerselves to Tesco on the way to the station, save yourself a fortune. Seriously when a snack costs more than your ticket you need to rethink things.


[1] In case you cannot translate: A ham sarny, a sausage roll and a bottle of coke.

[allypally]

MML's food currently ain't bad at all, actually - the burgers and stuff is actually quite nice.

[andylloyd]

NATEX's ideas for the ECML seem good. Not sure how they are gonna pull off the hot meals to you in standard class though?
Maybe extra staff?

Kind Regards

Andy

[AlistairW]

NATEX's ideas for the ECML seem good. Not sure how they are gonna pull off the hot meals to you in standard class though?
Maybe extra staff?

Kind Regards

Andy

Are they at seat? GNER currently let Standard class customers sit in the buffet car whilst they eat their dinner, after which they (like first class customers) are asked to return to their seats.

[andylloyd]

apparently they are talikng about an at seat service on their trains for standard class customers
Also not forgetting free wifi in standad class aswell.

Kind Regards

Andy
p.s apologies for going slightly off topic with the closing part

[johncard]

Get yerselves to Tesco on the way to the station, save yourself a fortune. Seriously when a snack costs more than your ticket you need to rethink things.

I sincerely apologise on behalf of thegooden for this slur, he mistakes "Tesco" for "takeaway". See? Problem solved, phone soon.