Pacers To Cornwall ... Oh Dear!

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:51 am

ianmacmillan wrote:Pacers will be a success because they are cheaper.

But will they be? There is the extra cost of wheel turning to be taken into consideration as well as the downtime that this entails.

Regards,

Dan

enotayokel · Post by **enotayokel** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:45 pm

spartacus wrote:

Now the people who moan about FGW at the moment will realise what a bad train REALLY is! They wanted new trains; well be carefull what you wish for in future!

We already get 143s

Have you seen the condition of the local Dogbox's - They need work urgently.

So guess what they've sending for refurb first - the faily decent TPX 158s!

AlistairW · Post by **AlistairW** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:37 pm

From what I've heard the Ex. TPX 158's are in a terrible state, although not being from the area I can't be sure.

enotayokel · Post by **enotayokel** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:51 pm

They are a lot better then some of the Native ones

If the Exmoor Explorer 158 is still about - that has a tatty Central interior

shaun123 · Post by **shaun123** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:01 pm

And Northern are taking it in December!

Shaun

MuzTrem · Post by **MuzTrem** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:33 pm

ianmacmillan wrote:That's all the privatised railways care about. They've proved they don't care about passengers or their comfort.

That may be true of some of the privatised companies, but certainly not all of them.

I cite Chiltern and GNER as two shining examples in this respect. In fact, I think it's a great shame GNER are losing their franchise...but that's a debate for another thread!

enotayokel · Post by **enotayokel** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:45 pm

MuzTrem wrote:
ianmacmillan wrote:That's all the privatised railways care about. They've proved they don't care about passengers or their comfort.
I cite GNER as two shining examples in this respect.

IME GNER only care about those in First

Astrovana · Post by **Astrovana** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:18 pm

I thought the reason 142s weren't running on the cornish lines was because they weren't suitable for the tight corners on the Newquay line, yet FGW decides that they should run there?????

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egad i'm in one of those moods

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:48 am

It's either Pacers or real buses!

MoonKid47 · Post by **MoonKid47** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:30 am

spartacus wrote:It's either Pacers or real buses!

Is there a difference?

shaun123 · Post by **shaun123** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:17 pm

142001 and 142004 down to Exeter on Sunday from Newton Heath

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:00 pm

MoonKid47 wrote:
spartacus wrote:It's either Pacers or real buses!
Is there a difference?

ones decent and the others a 142.

barrymcguire9999 · Post by **barrymcguire9999** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:32 pm

Just in case anyone is interested, running as 5Z42 on Sunday (23rd) departing Newton Heath (approx 1230, can't remember exactly) and routed via Manchester Victoria, Warrington Bank Quay, Chester (around 1430ish), Wrexham, Shrewsbury, Hereford, Severn Tunnel, Bristol TM, Taunton and to Exeter arriving approx 1900ish.

HTH

MoonKid47 · Post by **MoonKid47** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:03 pm

barrymcguire9999 wrote:Just in case anyone is interested, running as 5Z42 on Sunday (23rd) departing Newton Heath (approx 1230, can't remember exactly) and routed via Manchester Victoria, Warrington Bank Quay, Chester (around 1430ish), Wrexham, Shrewsbury, Hereford, Severn Tunnel, Bristol TM, Taunton and to Exeter arriving approx 1900ish.

HTH

If needed I can picture the trains at Warrington Bank Quay...

shaun123 · Post by **shaun123** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:41 pm

142064 has replaced 142004, as 142004 is due a B-Exam so the service will now be 142001+142064

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