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Thrashin wrote:I can understand that entirely. I live near the Ravenglass & Eskdale, and it's definately become more commercialised over the years. I think this is partially due to the continuing Northward spread of the 'Lake District' (That is, the tourist destination and not the national park). The appearance of more extravagant souvenirs and one of those fun, if entirely pointless, machines that reshapes one of the Queen's finest English pennies into a new design in the shop shows this quite clearly.

Also worthy of note is a partnership with Northern Rail, which has seen a 156 applied with advertising vinyls for the Ratty. Talking of which, the "La'al Ratty" nickname appears more and more on promotional material these days, having seemingly turned from a local nickname into a corporate slogan.

Several things have changed on the line itself as well - the footbridge at Ravenglass was taken out a couple of years ago, apparently for fear that some cretin would manage not to see it, walk into it and knock themselves out, and a large new building has been opened at Dalegarth. The turntable at Ravenglass has had a fence built round it, and gates have appeared on the foot crossing just in front of it.

All this doesn't sit comfortably with me somehow. The old building at Dalegarth was very homely and welcoming - I can't help but fear that some of that has been lost with the new complex. Of course, I understand that all this is keeping the railway alive, and bringing tourism to my local area, but sometimes I wish it was like it used to be. All this probably sounds ridiculous, but it feels somehow like a piece of local heritage is being slowly ebbed away by the erosion of commercialisation, turning into one of those generic attractions with at least two Shearings' buses in the car park.

It's like going back to your old corner shop, only to find it's been turned into a branch of Tesco.
To be fair, the old Dalegarth station building was only ever a "temporary" structure in the first place. It was swamped by passengers in the 80's when I first visited as a kid, so god only knows what it's been like recently. The footbridge was a nice feature, but did it actually contribute anything to the station, especially when space is at a notable premium during the season.

I think it's a question of the attraction becoming value added. You can go for a train ride at any of the myriad "one man and his brake van" efforts scattered around the country. However, how highly would your average family rate shuttling up and down 500 yards of track behind an industrial estate to their friends and family? In this age of increasing costs and an aging volunteer workforce, it surely makes sense to build up the attraction and put a little money (and kudos) aside whilst the going is good.

I would love to go back to the Ratty next week and ride in the Maxi carriages behind Bonnie Dundee (as a tank engine) in the rain, before a twix and brew at the old Dalegarth and a wander down to St Catherines, but that period has gone. I suspect a lot of the older generation, visiting during my "halcyon Ravenglass period" of the early 90's would have bemoaned the gift shop, paved carpark, and corporate sponsorship of Northern Rock :)

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I agree, and I can see entirely the point about the attraction becoming value added, I was just noting that it's sad to see some of the old features that you come to know and love being taken away. I can see that it's for the long term good of the railway, and indeed the local area, as a whole. The period you mention hasn't completely gone though - you can still ride in the maxi carriages, and it'll most likely be in the rain! :wink:

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Many railways are having to cash in on the tourists pound these days and have become essentially tourist attractions in themselves rather than out and out preservation outfits, or indeed private railways, I feel.
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Absolutely - take Thomas the Tank weekends for example. These are aimed at families after a good day out with the kids, not at enthusiasts or preservationists. There are very few lines which don't have a TtTE event at some point during the year. They're widely ridiculed by many enthusiasts, but they fetch in the punters and their money - money which keeps the locos and stock that the enthusiasts are interested in on the rails. If turning railways into tourist attractions keeps preserved traction running then I can't really complain. :)

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My Favourite Lines

1) Caldervale Line - Beautiful scenery and good old 155s, cant get them anywhere else. Also has excursions up there sometimes.

2) Huddersfield Line - Same again, beautiful scenery but with the chance to travel in a 170 if your lucky.

3) Oldham Loop Line - Best go along from Rochdale to Shaw in a 142, then the donkeys nodd.

4) Caldervale North - Halifax to Preston is a nice journey, specially along the Accrington Viaduct.

I would like to comment on the S&C, but as I havnt gotten up there yet I dont know what its like. Next time I do ill let everyone know. :D
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this is an idea of mine where we all talk about our favourite preserved lines
Are any of those preserved, Moonkid :-?
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