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Help identifying locomotives.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:36 am
by ahardy
Hi all.

Does anyone know any details about the locos shown below, class age etc? Any help would be most appreciated.

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Many thanks.

Andrew Hardy

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:40 am
by BR7MT
They look like the tank engines that were eventually used as bankers on the Folkestone Harbour branch.

Regards,

Dan

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:42 am
by ahardy
I thought that, and the locos on that branch were R1 Class? But any photos I have of R1 and R class locos have some fancy work on the front of the smokebox. Maybe that was just the R class and these are the R1s.

Andy

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:51 am
by BR7MT
They are definitely of SE&CR origin - the shape of the smokebox and cab are in the SE&CR design style. Looks like an enlarged P class, but I can't find any information about them!

Regards,

Dan

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:53 am
by ahardy
Completly agree with that. The flaring on the tanks and the style of the cab and smokebox.

I had a search on the SEMG site, but couldnt find anything similar. Really at a loss. Maybe someone else could shed some light.

Andy

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:08 am
by BR7MT
http://www.semg.org.uk/steam/dblhead_01.html

Third picture down ;)

Regards,

Dan

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:14 am
by BR7MT
Right, think I've cracked it!

There are two different types of R/R1 that were taken on by the amalgamated railways. There is the LCDR R/R1, which was an 0-4-4T engine, and there was the SECR R/R1, which was an 0-6-0T engine. It is the latter that appears in your pictures and that was the banker on the Folkestone Harbour Branch at the end of their lives.

Regards,

Dan

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:24 am
by decapod
Beat me to it - ex-SER R1 class

Also had a round topped cab on some instead of the Wainwright cab

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:30 pm
by ahardy
Wonderful thanks very much guys. Can write a more accurate caption now.

Thanks again.

Andy

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:03 pm
by ianmacmillan
R1.

I recognise it from the Hornby Dublo model. (age givaway)

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:15 pm
by JSReeves86
The Folkestone R1s had the cut down cabs which were used on the C&WR as of the tight clearences in the tunnel on the route.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:34 pm
by numnutz
Here are some pictures / details from my website:

http://www.southernrailway.net/search/s ... _fd6=31337

and

http://www.southernrailway.net/search/s ... _fd6=31069

other details obtainable from the British Steam Database at http://www.britishsteam.com/

hope this helps

nn :)

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:37 pm
by ahardy
Thanks for that. Didnt realise it was your site. I was going to roder some photos from Maidstone over the next few weeks from there.

Many thanks

Andy

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:00 pm
by wdpics
that's one nice loco!