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I went on 2 221's today as i was going to Brockenhurst from Southampton and back 'cos i felt like a bash on the Lymington branch (there was a Desiro instead of a slammer). Both Voyagers smelt like no joke. You could smell it throughout the coach i was in. This is the first time i've ever travelled on Voyagers, never again until whatever problem the've got is fixed.

Terrible.


Andy.

Sounds like an over flow in one of the toilets - my experiences on voyagers has been relatively positive. Nothing spectacular, but nothing that makes me think "I'm not travelling on one of these again".

There is quite often a pungent smell in the vestibule area, however I've rarely smelt it within the seating areas

I read a while back (in the onboard magazine) that a Virgin employee had come up with an idea of using a particular scented air freshener in the Voyager toilets, perhaps this hasn't happened yet!!?

01pictoa wrote:I went on 2 221's today as i was going to Brockenhurst from Southampton and back 'cos i felt like a bash on the Lymington branch (there was a Desiro instead of a slammer). Both Voyagers smelt like no joke. You could smell it throughout the coach i was in. This is the first time i've ever travelled on Voyagers, never again until whatever problem the've got is fixed.

Terrible.


Andy.

I believe this to be related to the retention tank system on board these particular type of units.

I've noticed it more times than I care to remember, not pleasant is it! The pendolino "pee" smell isn't much better though...

I know this smell very well. It doesn't make me go "Ewww" or anything, I just call it Eau de Voyager. I'm probably just used to it though.

colinm74 wrote:There is quite often a pungent smell in the vestibule area, however I've rarely smelt it within the seating areas

I read a while back (in the onboard magazine) that a Virgin employee had come up with an idea of using a particular scented air freshener in the Voyager toilets, perhaps this hasn't happened yet!!?

There allways a bad smell in the mornings on Voyagers and Pendos i was told it the stuff they use to clean the loos with

Mite as well not clean then

MARTIN

Both trains stink. For a new train its terrible. Never had a problem on a MK3 or MK4, although of course they don't have retention tanks.

Never noticed it on a 159, though I read somewhere that current regs require the storage of the umm.... manure (was going to say something else) above underframe level, so the tank on new stock is in the ceiling, where as a 159's tank is slung under the bodyside near the coupling

enotayokel wrote:Never noticed it on a 159, though I read somewhere that current regs require the storage of the umm.... manure (was going to say something else) above underframe level, so the tank on new stock is in the ceiling, where as a 159's tank is slung under the bodyside near the coupling

The new southern region stock doesn't have the same problem. The tanks on those are above "solebar" level, but not in the roof. I think they're below where the sink is, in that "console" thingy.

I think the pendo issue is that a vent from the effluent tank is near to an air intake for the a/c. Not a great bit of design, if true.

I used to commute on voyagers every day, and whilst there used to be a slight smell, it was never that bad. Must have been a problem on that one i'd guess. Strangely, MML's meridians don't seem to have the problem, and also seem to be better fitted out. They are definitely quieter inside too.

bdy26 wrote:I used to commute on voyagers every day, and whilst there used to be a slight smell, it was never that bad. Must have been a problem on that one i'd guess. Strangely, MML's meridians don't seem to have the problem, and also seem to be better fitted out. They are definitely quieter inside too.

There was an interesting feature on the Meridians in one of the Trainspotting programmes a while back. The impression I got from it was that they were similar to a Voyager, but with most of the problems ironed out. IIRC, there were very few features of the trains that were actually the same.

Cheers

Jack

AlistairW wrote:Both trains stink. For a new train its terrible. Never had a problem on a MK3 or MK4, although of course they don't have retention tanks.

I have to question your post as I believe that Mk.3 coaching stock doesn't have CET as you pointed out but the Mk.4 coaching stock does.

BUT, I have to agree with you on them not having a problem.

I think it's pretty bad to have a train in everyday service that smells unclean. There not new anymore, so you'd have thought the problems they'd have would be sorted. Desiro's and Electrostars don't have that problem and they're of a similar age. Haven't travelled on a Pendolino so can't complain about them. I went on a SWT 159 the same day, fantastic, lovely and comfortable (the seats are twice as thick as a Voyager) and clean!!

Andy.

(PS: can anyone tell me what 60 is still in Petroleum sectors?)

60054, but I think this is stored

Can't be stored, my mate saw it at Didcot today. (He didn't see the number)

Thanks,

Andy