RH&DR Level crossing safety leaflet

timbgray64 · Post by **timbgray64** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:32 pm

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wdpics · Post by **wdpics** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:41 pm

It makes me wonder why people take so many risks at crossings. Train coming at 100mph vs a pedestrian or a car - there is no competition

timbgray64 · Post by **timbgray64** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:45 pm

wdpics wrote:It makes me wonder why people take so many risks at crossings. Train coming at 100mph vs a pedestrian or a car - there is no competition

Yes but its a 15" gauge line, and in the last 2 incidents the loco drivers (both collegues of mine) have come off worse!

RED LIGHTS MEAN STOP

WSR2005 · Post by **WSR2005** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:00 pm

Bit of a problem if an RHDR train is going at 100mph

But on a serious note, I'm glad something like this has been made - I only hope drivers will take some notice of it, so we don't have reoccurences of the previous incidents.

Tim

JSReeves86 · Post by **JSReeves86** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:13 pm

Same here, however I dont reckon half the marshians can read anyway.

timbgray64 · Post by **timbgray64** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:14 pm

JSReeves86 wrote:Same here, however I dont reckon half the marshians can read anyway.

Thats why there is colourful cartoon pictures

miketrak · Post by **miketrak** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:13 am

Nice leaflet there, maybe the wig-wag signal could quote after its little conversation with the traffic light. 'Not even the emergency services are allowed to pass me!'
I was intrigued by the timings of the crossing however, 60 seconds for the train to arrive and 60 seconds after? Seems a very long time for an AOCL and if this is so, could this be contributing to the indiscipline by road users? Auto crossings are usually quite finely timed, to give a good balance between excessive road closed times (where road users will be tempted to pass the flashing red lights) and the train arriving at the crossing too early. Quote from HMRI guidelines 'The time elapsed from the amber light showing to the train arriving at the crossing should not be less that 27 seconds. Trains should pass as soon after 27 seconds as possible.' also 'The intermittent red lights of the road traffic signals should be extinguished and audible warning stopped as soon as possible after a train has cleared the crossing'
From reading the leaflet, I get the impression the warning times are twice as excessive, and the road lights continue to flash 60 seconds after the train has passed. So no wonder road users are ignoring them!

JSReeves86 · Post by **JSReeves86** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:19 am

Not too sure about 60 secs after TBH (unless something has changed) they stop flashing as the last coach clears the crossing.
This is the case with the AOCLs & the ABCLs the latter being slightly longer with time for barriers to rasie.

JR

timbgray64 · Post by **timbgray64** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:25 pm

As far as i am aware, all the track circuits for the level crossings are at the correct distance from the level crossing to give the required time of "flashing reds", the distance from the crossing is also depandant on the speed limit on that particular crossing as these vary from 5 & 10 mph on the open crossings to 15 mph on the barrier controlled crossings