Freightliner jumbo trains

andylloyd · Post by **andylloyd** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:34 pm

Hi all,
have just seen a 'super jumbo' coal train go through Newcastle Central top n tailed by freightliner class 66's.

Is this going to be a regular occurence?

Thanks

Andy

JSReeves86 · Post by **JSReeves86** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:51 pm

how big is jumbo i know EWS have been running 40 odd HTAs as a jumbo but didnt know FL were doing that as well.

JR

andylloyd · Post by **andylloyd** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:00 pm

i'm not sure if its slightly longer?

Any takers?

Thanks

Andy

Iluka · Post by **Iluka** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:34 pm

Hi All

You call that a Jumbo Train

In Western Australia we have Iron Ore trains well over 2kms long with three locos at the front and two locos in the middle - when I was working for a living travelling in the North West of Australia I dreaded having to wait at the crossings!!

To achieve this feat the Iron Ore Companies (BHP & Rio Tinto) had to devise radio control to the middle locos and special strengthened buck eye rotatable couplings on every second Iron Ore Car for efficient tumbler unloading.

All the rail tracks are fully welded on concrete sleepers and are obviously extremely heavy duty and ground smooth an a regular basis.

When Pendennis Castle was based at Karratha (Rio Tinto) and went for a run from Dampier to Tom Price it was a very impressive sight and as smooth as silk - if Rio Tinto (Then Hamersley Iron) had allowed it I am convinced that Pendennis Castle could have broken Mallard's speed record on their excellent tracks.

Regards

Mike

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:58 pm

Iluka wrote:When Pendennis Castle was based at Karratha (Rio Tinto) and went for a run from Dampier to Tom Price it was a very impressive sight and as smooth as silk - if Rio Tinto (Then Hamersley Iron) had allowed it I am convinced that Pendennis Castle could have broken Mallard's speed record on their excellent tracks.

Just taking this thread off topic a sec!

I very much doubt it could have exceeded 120mph, because of the air resistance caused by a lack of streamlining. The maximum speed achieved by a non-streamlined steam locomotive was by the LNER A3 Papyrus before the second world war, at 108mph

Regards,

Dan

johncard · Post by **johncard** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:11 pm

BR7MT wrote:LNER A3 Papyrus before the second world war, at 108mph

So it wasn't Salmon Trout then

Talking of Freightliner, a HHA has been parked at Thirsk station sidings for about 2 weeks now. Is there a time limit for retrieval or has it been strategically forgotten about?!

John

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:07 pm

Heading North or South about what time?

I seriously doubt it was a jumbo to anything like the EWS standards with 42 HTAs on because they won't fit in any of the loops en route apart from at Ferryhill and needs special dispensation to run as a result. Freightliner would need to have them planned especially for it.

jonathanmlewis · Post by **jonathanmlewis** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:10 pm

andylloyd wrote:Hi all,
have just seen a 'super jumbo' coal train go through Newcastle Central top n tailed by freightliner class 66's.

Is this going to be a regular occurence?

as the S&C is shut perhaps.... But it can hardly be that jumbo if its TnT as only the front one can be powering...

andylloyd · Post by **andylloyd** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:39 pm

It was going northbound at approx 1430. There were two 66's on it, front and rear.

Andy

Whitemoor · Post by **Whitemoor** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:34 pm

johncard wrote: Talking of Freightliner, a HHA has been parked at Thirsk station sidings for about 2 weeks now. Is there a time limit for retrieval or has it been strategically forgotten about?!

John

Probaly dumped due to having a hot box or something similar, FHH have loads of these wagons spare so are hardly bothered about it.

Depending on the fault, it may need removal by road, which is why its sitting there so long as they cant be bothered to pay for a lorry!

johncard · Post by **johncard** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:23 pm

They haven't forgotten about it but they certainly aren't rushing around to retrieve it. How does NR work out access charges for sidings?

John

andylloyd · Post by **andylloyd** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:11 am

Hi all,
are the new freightliner HTA's grey/silver in colour?

Regards

Andy

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:22 pm

johncard wrote:They haven't forgotten about it but they certainly aren't rushing around to retrieve it. How does NR work out access charges for sidings?

John

They pay anually just like us paying a TV license if it sits there it sits there no extra cost.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:23 pm

andylloyd wrote:Hi all,
are the new freightliner HTA's grey/silver in colour?

Regards

Andy

Dirty silver with the usual freightliner heavy haul sticker.

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:19 am

andylloyd wrote:Hi all,
are the new freightliner HTA's grey/silver in colour?

Regards

Andy

They're invisible because they don't have any!

EWS have HTAs and former National Power JMAs (also a variety of 4 wheeled types), Freighliner have HHAs, and the new higher capacity HXAs and GBRf have HYAs, outwardly similar to HTAs but higher capacity and kinder to track.

http://wagons.wordpress.com/british-wag ... e/h-coded/
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