FGW - MTU Engined Power Cars - Another fire - Major Faults?

phill70 · Post by **phill70** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:24 pm

enotayokel wrote: they are very quiet! The idea being that when the fleet is fitted this will permit Notch 5 departures, which are currently restricted following complaints from various councils (and Ken Livingstone)

What is the point of "notch 5 departures" from Paddington then ?

Having been a driver at OOC for three years, I know why there is no point.

Glyn

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:32 pm

Don't HST's just slip if you notch 5 them from a stand?

phill70 · Post by **phill70** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:42 pm

allypally wrote:Don't HST's just slip if you notch 5 them from a stand?

Alex
You can notch 5 them from a standing start, and get away without slipping, but it all depends on the railhead conditions, but in this case the same applies to most mainline London terminus stations.

Glyn

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:49 pm

Ah ha! Just going on a conversation I overheard between a relieving driver and the bloke to be relieved at New St warning the new guy not to notch up beyond 3 from the start because the set was slipping badly! This was a couple of years ago now though!

antont · Post by **antont** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:47 pm

Having been at Reading & Oxford yesterday have to agree with the comments about the new HST engines. They seem to have taken away a bit of there character. Just a shame I was changing batteries and memory card when a "classic" HST was leaving; with a nice clag too!

ForburyLion · Post by **ForburyLion** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:12 pm

I got caught up in the disruption trying to catch a train from Maidenhead to Reading at 5.20pm.... My train was cancelled, but on the plus side as there were a couple empty HST's on Maidenhead station by this time they sent one back to Reading and I got something other than a 165/6 or 180 to travel on.

Earlier that same week services to London were affected in the morning due to a firearms incident on a Paddington to Reading service, police all over Reading station and 4 platforms closed for safety reasons as the police waited for the train to arrive.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:19 pm

http://uk.video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=280592

a quiet one

http://uk.video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=280581

Turn the volume up listern..... authentic HST sound??? yes... well no actually the echo off the walls is actually 43164 an MTU fitted powercar opening up, just for the record im in a TGS with what i can only describe as the interior they had whilst in fag packet livery.

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:14 pm

phill70 wrote:
allypally wrote:Don't HST's just slip if you notch 5 them from a stand?
Alex
You can notch 5 them from a standing start, and get away without slipping, but it all depends on the railhead conditions, but in this case the same applies to most mainline London terminus stations.

Glyn

I'm surprised they have an archaic control system that has notches.

Surely the speed restrictions over the station throat would make a "wang it open in the platform" driving style a bit pointless?

phill70 · Post by **phill70** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:22 pm

arabiandisco wrote: Surely the speed restrictions over the station throat would make a "wang it open in the platform" driving style a bit pointless?

Well done, hit the nail on the head

Glyn

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:16 pm

arabiandisco wrote:
I'm surprised they have an archaic control system that has notches.

Surely the speed restrictions over the station throat would make a "wang it open in the platform" driving style a bit pointless?

yes it is but its enjoyable entertainment. well with locohauleds it is.

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:29 am

salopiangrowler wrote:
arabiandisco wrote:
I'm surprised they have an archaic control system that has notches.

Surely the speed restrictions over the station throat would make a "wang it open in the platform" driving style a bit pointless?
yes it is but its enjoyable entertainment. well with locohauleds it is.

I'm sure it is - if you're driving an up train from Bristol Parkway. Full power in the platform at Paddington might be entertaining, but it would then risk a derailment by speeding through the pointwork. How very entertaining that would be.

AlistairW · Post by **AlistairW** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:47 am

bdy26 wrote:Tis a shame, used to love hearing them scream through Duffield (5 mins north of Derby) with that scream.

You still can at the moment as aren't all if not most of MML's HST's still Valenta's? Anthough gone have the days when they used to stop HST's at Duffield!

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:17 pm

MML have about 4 Valenta powercars, most are VP185s.