31 Crash - Wasn't on

danielw2599 · Post by **danielw2599** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:11 pm

petermakosch wrote:But when you're in a rush?
A level crossing near me closes the barriers when the train is about 2 miles away. I never have, but could easily pass over the track three or four times (walking) without being run down.

And thats where so many ill informed people fall into the trap and lose thier lifes.

To Joe Public, 2 miles seems ages away but a train traveling at 100mph can be on top of you within 30-45 seconds. I get asked daily by motorists why we cant open the gates in between trains despite the fact the trains are only a few signal sections apart.

And the reason gates are shut miles in advance is A: to prevent delays to services and B: On average trains travelling at speed need 1.25 miles to stop short of any obstruction.

Daniel

enotayokel · Post by **enotayokel** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:54 pm

I suspect it may not be on due to tonights incident...

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:10 pm

RichD3167 wrote:
petermakosch wrote:But when you're in a rush?
A level crossing near me closes the barriers when the train is about 2 miles away. I never have, but could easily pass over the track three or four times (walking) without being run down.
That's because the distant signal to the signal protecting that level crossing will be a fair distance away....

I know that, but like danielw2599 said, you're average Joe person doesn't.

enotayokel wrote:I suspect it may not be on due to tonights incident...

Dunno though - doesn't sound like there has been any fatalities?
But then at the time of writing, reports are very sketchy.

timbgray64 · Post by **timbgray64** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:32 pm

Does anybody think that the level crossing film will ever get shown on TV, every time it is supposed to be shown there seems to be another level crossing incident - there is a moral to that story!!!

Hopefully it will get shown, i was in the audience when it was first supposed to be shown and the footage is quite spectacular, its just a shame that Jeremy Clarkson tries to make fun of it

Tim

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:35 pm

I would guess that due to the Grayrigg incident this evening, that the BBC will probably postpone it again.

Regards,

Dan

Website · Post by **Easilyconfused** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:52 pm

I would suspect you are right Dan.

Kindest regards

John

Elojikal · Post by **Elojikal** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:26 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/6394109.stm

Another week another level crossing incident.

It's time a more common sense approach was adopted and the film was shown once and for all before another incident occurs.

JSReeves86 · Post by **JSReeves86** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:36 am

Come on BBC just show the film get the message out there. It may not stop the muppets but at least it will rasie the proflie a bit.

JR

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:16 pm

BBC News website saying that it will be shown tonight, but the story link is not available yet.

Regards,

Dan

Elojikal · Post by **Elojikal** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:56 pm

It is getting shown.

Here's a picture of the remains of the car in the studio; http://www.topgear.com/content/timetobu ... 2/main.jpg

danielw2599 · Post by **danielw2599** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:46 pm

BR7MT wrote:BBC News website saying that it will be shown tonight, but the story link is not available yet.

Regards,

Dan

Yeah read it on TeleText this afternoon. BBC were deciding if they were going to pull it again but decided to go ahead with it.

andylloyd · Post by **andylloyd** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:51 pm

Hi all,
there is already a link off of the newspage for the derailment pointing to the top gear show.

Regards

Andy

Website · Post by **Easilyconfused** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:01 pm

Yes there is a link and there are these little gems in that story

Carol Bell, vice-chair of the Safe Trains Action Group said: "I'm not sure it's a good idea. I do understand the programme itself has been through something like this with Richard Hammond.

"But there's a poor woman who's lost her life, and her family is still injured. I just think it's a bit insensitive at the moment"

And Anthony Smith, chief executive of the rail watchdog Passenger Focus, added: "We need to raise awareness of the issue, but now is not the right time."

On a personal level here (not as a moderator) I think now is exactly the right time. What would those same people say if there was another major level crossing accident this week and a number of passengers were killed ?

Perhaps showing this will convince people how dangerous their actions can be. I still think those Australian public information adverts were very good. The one with the young girl and her mother in the car that gets stuck in traffic was chilling especially since I have a daughter about that age.

Regards

John

WSR2005 · Post by **WSR2005** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:22 pm

Easilyconfused wrote:I still think those Australian public information adverts were very good.

I can't help thinking they are almost the perfect thing for the problem - not too extreme to be censored, but still able to make the point crystal clear. I wonder why we aren't following the Aussie lead yet.

johnmnstl · Post by **johnmnstl** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:43 pm

MAybe it should be released as a public information film after airing tonight ????

Cheers

John