DRS Monster's For Sandite Season

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:18 pm

here's a list for you feasting eye's

this is a list off http://www.wnxx.com of those allocated to the sandite Network Rail User's pool.

XHNR allocation...
Class 20: 20301 20302 20303 20304 20305 20306 20307 20308 20309 20310 20311 20314 20315 20905
Class 37: 37029 37059 37069 37087 37194 37218 37229 37259 37261 37510
Class 66: 66407 66409 66412 66413

Note: 20905 is on hire from HNRC

CSRZiyang · Post by **CSRZiyang** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:21 pm

I would have thought that when Pacers eventually do get replaced, they would make ideal Sandite units.... opinions please?

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:51 pm

I think the main driver for replacing pacers will be their awful reliablility. Therefore, using them for Sandite could be disasterous, as running them for 2 months a year will certainly not help reliability- they'd be sitting down all over the place. That of course is a problem with whatever you use for such seasonal trains, but given that pacers are pretty dire when used regularly, they'd be a poor choice IMO.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:32 pm

Wasnt Flower a sandite 141???? dreadful literally.

AlistairW · Post by **AlistairW** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:49 pm

Isn't it better to use heavy vehicles for sandite trains or does it dont really make a difference?

They should just get a 'shark' and drop the plough to the rail head.

mattvince · Post by **mattvince** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:15 pm

Ah, Sandite trains. Trains which are timed to run in paths which don't exist, and if they ran to time would end up throwing the entire train plan into disarray. Just as long as one doesn't break down (after 8 months in store) at some critical junction.

They should just get a 'shark' and drop the plough to the rail head.

Better still, the Harsco Grinders. Fire and Brimstone, et al.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:24 pm

its 37's for Crewe based RHTT jobs

66's for the WCML south

20's for North East and Anglia and another area EWS are looking after the ECML.

andylloyd · Post by **andylloyd** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:00 pm

yesterday saw an ews 66 hauling a sandite through gateshead(metrocentre) towards Hexham. Will we be seeing 20's or 66's regularly?

Andy

Ghostcav · Post by **Ghostcav** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:13 pm

Not forgetting the corellian(SP?) 121 bubble that I saw today on the aberystwth-shrewsbury line.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:13 pm

I think EWS have got the ECML and part of scotland and the Rest is DRS i dont know about the West country it as a quick glance at the area's.

Carillion 121 on the Cambrian. thats not a sanditite unit is it. It maybe the ultra sonic line tester you saw Machynlleths on the Crewe RHTT diagram and thats a 37, 37 top n tail job.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:27 pm

EWS working from Carlisle Upperby Yard - Carlisle Upperby Via Newcastle.
DRS Working York - York around a load of off the beaten track line's assumingly Scarboroughs in aswell.

Ghostcav · Post by **Ghostcav** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:39 pm

salopiangrowler wrote: Carillion 121 on the Cambrian. thats not a sanditite unit is it. It maybe the ultra sonic line tester you saw Machynlleths on the Crewe RHTT diagram and thats a 37, 37 top n tail job.

Actually thinking about it I think you are right,passed it at Mach on friday. It looked like the old heritage style sandite unit but looked too clean inside.

andylloyd · Post by **andylloyd** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:14 am

are the workings for the sandite's daily to newcastle does anyone know? Will they always be top n tailed with 66's?

Andy

alexnick · Post by **alexnick** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:35 am

@mattvince

I have some experience of timetabling, and sandite paths are created, but they get removed if they get in the way of anything else - same with all similar trains like maintainance and charter trains. They don't really matter as they don't stick to timetables...unfortunately the same goes for regular freight services - so they can't be accurately timetabled!

Nick

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:48 am

andylloyd wrote:are the workings for the sandite's daily to newcastle does anyone know? Will they always be top n tailed with 66's?

Andy

From what i can gather and past routine's it will be Daily the Crewe one was. You'll be getting 66's on the EWS trip i dont know if the 20's on the york trip cover Newcastle or turn back at Darlington.