New Locos for EWS

champy · Post by **champy** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:49 pm

http://www.privatbahnforum.de/read.php?1,86557,86578

30 of these will replace the current heavy haul requirement for EWS.
Posted on SW gen.True or Not?
i presume its the Green 67 like loco?

Jon

trainmad · Post by **trainmad** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:50 pm

They actually look rather good... hope that rumours true.

carlwestwood · Post by **carlwestwood** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:42 pm

it does look rather '67' like dont it.

they look gud enuf, -- will they be for EWS operations in EU or in Britain?

champy · Post by **champy** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:02 pm

Surmise what you will, i hope we see them here and over there as such bit like the 92.
All i hope is there not direct replacements for 60s

jon

mattvince · Post by **mattvince** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:03 pm

I'd be very surprised if EWS (UK) were to recieve any of these - not least the fact that it's a bit big. The Class 67 connection is more than coincidental - Vossloh bought Alstom's Valencia factory, where the Skips were built, and with it elements of the Prima design. Both designs have GM '710'-series engines.

Now shrinking a G2000-4BB to UK gauge might just be possible - 3500hp B-B Diesel-Hydraulic anyone?

champy · Post by **champy** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:27 pm

Would a Bo Bo be suitable for Heavy Haul work?
As the 67 is a Bo Bo and they have to double head them on Enterprise and coal workings?
We had 67s doing the Eastleigh Furzebrook Gas Emptys but not loaded to my knowledge as they cudnt cope with the weight up certain parts of the dorset route. Was commonly a 60 turn and before that a 58.

Jon

mattvince · Post by **mattvince** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:50 pm

Ah, but a Skip is a 125mph-geared machine - all speed and no tractive effort. G2000-BBs are 90mph machines with 282kN of starting effort - twice that of a Skip. The lower the gearing, the more TE is gained at the cost of speed - case in point: 66/0 and 66/6.

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:00 pm

No chance of it being seen on the UK Network as it has been designed for the loading gauge of mainland Europe. Certain UK based companies may buy them though

Regards,

Dan

champy · Post by **champy** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:25 am

mattvince wrote:Ah, but a Skip is a 125mph-geared machine - all speed and no tractive effort. G2000-BBs are 90mph machines with 282kN of starting effort - twice that of a Skip. The lower the gearing, the more TE is gained at the cost of speed - case in point: 66/0 and 66/6.

Ah thanks for explaining that.

Jon