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Anyone know what this is at Wolverton on the fast lines???

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:41 pm
by sucker4hoovers
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A light reading "OFF", it goes out when a train goes by, and then comes back on when the stop signal is cleared, does it mean the stop signal is off?? That's a bit silly if it does cause the driver should be able to see the signal from there anyway! Unless it's for a train going slow, so he can get moving sooner after a stop signal to limit congestion...... :-?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:48 pm
by spartacus
Basically, yes, it's a modern repeater. There's probably some point in certain trains where the signal becomes obscured to the driver, hence the need for the repeater.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:49 pm
by Samd22
Maybe it's telling the driver to 'BOG OFF' :lol: , could be quite posessive of the track.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:17 pm
by tigermon
It's for platform staff to give 'platform duties complete' to the Guard, who then gives 'right away' to the driver. You'll find them on a number of preserved lines.

A repeater would be a banner repeater, which is covered quite nicely on this page. http://www.signalbox.org/signals/bannersignals.htm

There are two types of banner repeaters, 'home' and 'distant', the distant type is rather uncommon these days due to the vast majority of lines doing away with distant only signals, but it's not that uncommon, you'll still see it on some secondary routes and branch lines where the signal may be hard to spot.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:18 pm
by danielw2599
As spartacus said, it gives an indication to the driver that the platform starter is showing any aspect other than danger (red). The "OFF" indicator is only used at stations and usually at car stop marker boards.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:25 pm
by danielw2599
tigermon wrote:It's for platform staff to give 'platform duties complete' to the Guard, who then gives 'right away' to the driver. You'll find them on a number of preserved lines.

A repeater would be a banner repeater, which is covered quite nicely on this page. http://www.signalbox.org/signals/bannersignals.htm

There are two types of banner repeaters, 'home' and 'distant', the distant type is rather uncommon these days due to the vast majority of lines doing away with distant only signals, but it's not that uncommon, you'll still see it on some secondary routes and branch lines where the signal may be hard to spot.
Thought platform staff only operated the "RA" and "CD" indications.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:57 pm
by 250787
danielw2599 wrote:
tigermon wrote:It's for platform staff to give 'platform duties complete' to the Guard, who then gives 'right away' to the driver. You'll find them on a number of preserved lines.

A repeater would be a banner repeater, which is covered quite nicely on this page. http://www.signalbox.org/signals/bannersignals.htm

There are two types of banner repeaters, 'home' and 'distant', the distant type is rather uncommon these days due to the vast majority of lines doing away with distant only signals, but it's not that uncommon, you'll still see it on some secondary routes and branch lines where the signal may be hard to spot.
Thought platform staff only operated the "RA" and "CD" indications.
I believe that is correct. The "Off" is simply a repeater

Cheers

Matt

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:44 pm
by arabiandisco
It is a repeater for the benefit of platform staff/ guards. It will illuminate when the signal ahead is "off" (ie showing a proceed aspect), so the staff won't close the doors and give the driver the right away if the signal at the end of the platform won't let them go...

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:10 pm
by tigermon
I worded my post wrongly, my head still hurts from a 60-something year old woman constantly moaning in an overly loud voice for about 5 sodding hours!

What I meant was what 'arabiandisco' just posted.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:56 pm
by Tomnick
That's about right - it's a different beast to a banner repeater, in that it's intended for platform staff/guards to ensure that the signal's off before dispatching a train/giving right-away. The up fast platform at Loughborough Midland's a useful example - the 'platform starter' is hidden away under a bridge, so there's a banner repeater on approach to the platform, for the benefit of drivers not booked to stop, as well as an 'off' indicator on the platform itself, for the benefit of traincrew. From the normal stopping position, the driver will be able to directly see the signal.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:01 pm
by sucker4hoovers
Oh, ok. just curious!! So, in that case, this would indicate that it's used when a train is stopped at a station collecting/dropping passengers. Thing is, i dont remember seeing it that long ago, so i think it's a fairly recent addition. No trains stop on that platform, so why the need for the repeater?? Maybe someone invisaged trains stopping there sometime? And theres not one on the other platform.....

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:26 pm
by alexnick
We have some down South which say 'on' as well!

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:50 pm
by trainlover123
And some say this:

F
OFF

:D

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:58 pm
by Tomnick
sucker4hoovers wrote:Oh, ok. just curious!! So, in that case, this would indicate that it's used when a train is stopped at a station collecting/dropping passengers. Thing is, i dont remember seeing it that long ago, so i think it's a fairly recent addition. No trains stop on that platform, so why the need for the repeater?? Maybe someone invisaged trains stopping there sometime? And theres not one on the other platform.....
Presumably it's required by the 'standards' - just so that, if a train was required to call, it can be dispatched safely. The other platform won't need one - along with most platforms! - if the signal itself can be seen from most parts of the platform.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:32 pm
by coastal11
Hi All

This is a type of repeater as said before, you will only find it no platforms were the signal is obskewered from the view of platform staff and guards. I have 2 on the station I work on, we had a problem with one of them it went out and I had to stand at the front of the train ( on the platform) and dispatch the train :( as the guard could not see the signal.