why do young people hate trains

eastern · Post by **eastern** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:14 pm

I am 21 and love trains class 312,315, 321,360 EMUS.

Last few month ago i saw badly graffiti on new 'one' livery class 315 at stratford station.
I say graffiti is EVIL.
Why teenagers graffiti on class 315s new 'one' livery?

Astrovana · Post by **Astrovana** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:39 pm

I personally feel that the graffiti on some trains adds to the warn in feel. But the mindless tags ie. Tox 06 is plain stupid and they trespass to cover these locos and emu sets with rubbish.

I'm a teenager and although my gcses interfere with trains i still like them. I'm more attracted to the engineering side though. Especially overhead catenary and bridges like the one at leamington spa

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:58 pm

metromuppet wrote:
salopiangrowler wrote:im 27 and loved trains since i can remember.

You people who hate trains generally have a bad lifestyle.
When you say "you people", which i guess from the way you worded it aims it at everyone here.... why would someone be on this forum if they did not like trains?

OOps my bad meant those people its amazing what comes out of typing without concentration.

alril · Post by **alril** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:13 pm

I am 14 and it wouldnt even enter my mined to be so thoughtless and stupid, I have loved trains from age 0 and as my dad and my grandad are into trains its in my blood

eastern wrote:I am 21 and love trains class 312,315, 321,360 EMUS.

Last few month ago i saw badly graffiti on new 'one' livery class 315 at stratford station.
I say graffiti is EVIL.
Why teenagers graffiti on class 315s new 'one' livery?

(I feel total confidence in saying this because i dont think there will be any on here!) Simply because there chav's C = Council H = House A = Asoseated V = Vermin who have nothing better to do with there lives.
Its sad but true : /

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:18 pm

I think its a common misconception that 'all' teenagers are lager-swilling, burberry-wearing, fight-craving uneducated people - theres a rather large quantity of us who are perfectly capable of acting responsibly in most situations.

However, it can't really be ignored that a heck of a lot of todays criminal offences are caused by people of younger age-groups ( 12-30 )

Its an impossible problem to solve

some people just get 'kicks' out of doing something either dangerous, irresponsible, or a criminal act, and theres little that will deter them.

David

Astrovana · Post by **Astrovana** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:43 pm

I guess because we are into the railways, we have more respect for it. We know and understand the risks and we are deterred from behaving poorly around railway lines.
However it is ruined by a minority, as in everything in life, who don't care. For example the bins at my local station were removed in 2000 because teenagers were pushing them onto the line and starting fires in them. And now I am almost discouraged from spotting trains there because the staff are so unfriendly and dismissive.
Just because a few chavs muck around, we lose out. We're not all binge drinking, junky, council house kids.

skipperdipper · Post by **skipperdipper** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:50 pm

Astrovana wrote:I guess because we are into the railways, we have more respect for it. We know and understand the risks and we are deterred from behaving poorly around railway lines.
However it is ruined by a minority, as in everything in life, who don't care. For example the bins at my local station were removed in 2000 because teenagers were pushing them onto the line and starting fires in them. And now I am almost discouraged from spotting trains there because the staff are so unfriendly and dismissive.
Just because a few chavs muck around, we lose out. We're not all binge drinking, junky, council house kids.

I used to be a regular at my local station until the plastic scousers starting jumping across the tracks from platform to platform and using the stairs and bridges as toilets (oh, and crawling into the space underneath the ticket office). Most of the ticket office staff are sound, but theres one guy who suspects everyone, even the elderley! Since I was told to 'go before the police get here', I only use the station to get into Liverpool at weekends and go to school.

Rob

alril · Post by **alril** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:56 pm

yeah : / its a sad story, Chavs have a tendency to ruwin anything anyone else finds a bit of fun in, it falls back to the days when they had no attention from there parents. so they become deprest and put others down that had more enjoyment in life than them. Sad realy : /
____________

ALRIL

dkightley · Post by **dkightley** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:05 pm

As someone who can't be classed as a teenager anymore, I read through the comments on this thread.....most made by those who are one generation apart from myself, I've noticed one common theme.

In terms of describing an interest, there's only two options..."love" and "hate". What happened to the "slightly interested" or "fairly interested" options....and in fact the rest of the range???

I have an interest in trains...but i don't "love" them. I also have other interests....none of them are "love"s. And I don't "hate" other interests and hobbies that I am not interested in.

Come on, you lot.....less of the black and white. Let's see a few shades of grey.

Now where did I leave my zimmer?

RichPayne · Post by **RichPayne** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:54 pm

I've got to agree with the previous poster's comments. I dont think 'chavs' (however you define them) 'hate' trains - the ones at Lancaster who use the train to get to and from Morecambe seem human enough peopl,and I have never known either station be seriously vandalised - in fact I dont recall Lancaster ever being vandalised at all.

As for the love/hate matter... well, maybe you might be answering at least a small part of your own question. I have always been interested in trains, ever since I was a kid, and my interest was rekindled since Ive started travelling a lot for uni research and personal reasons. But I have never spotted, or photograped trains. Its not that I consider it'sad', or I 'hate' people who do it, it just isnt a way in which I would choose to spend my free time. I am interested in aviation too (spent several years trying to get any job which would involve being in an aircraft), but I dont spot or photograph planes either. Despite this, I am warmly welcomed on flightsim forums by people who do, as I share thier interest in some way.

Im not setting out to label anyone here - but an 'us and them' mentality tends to draw fire from 'them', whatever walk of life you are from and whatever group you identify yoursel with. I dont want to start a debate on the causes of young people trashing everything they can see - Im guessing it is far more complicated than sink estates and 'bad' parenting, although these things play thier part. But if you assume - as some people here seem to - that anyone who doesnt share thier view is in some way an enemy, or an object of ridicule and disgust, then you will get some of the same back.

Anyhoo, Im taking me soapbox home now, and my apologies if Ive got any backs up... but this hobby is just as much fun as all of my others

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:21 am

rwaceyw wrote:I think its a common misconception that 'all' teenagers are lager-swilling, burberry-wearing, fight-craving uneducated people - theres a rather large quantity of us who are perfectly capable of acting responsibly in most situations.

However, it can't really be ignored that a heck of a lot of todays criminal offences are caused by people of younger age-groups ( 12-30 )

Its an impossible problem to solve some people just get 'kicks' out of doing something either dangerous, irresponsible, or a criminal act, and theres little that will deter them.

David

Most young people are responsible, and know better than to set fire to inanimate objects. As always, it's a few idiots spoiling it for everyone else, and it's these that you hear the most about.

The empty can rattles the most

joea1 · Post by **joea1** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:06 am

dkightley wrote:In terms of describing an interest, there's only two options..."love" and "hate". What happened to the "slightly interested" or "fairly interested" options....and in fact the rest of the range???

That's what I'm saying - some people don't quite understand that though.

Astrovana · Post by **Astrovana** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:24 am

Now in order to get close enough to the west coast main line, i have to travel to Roade and Blisworth since i cannot get onto the platforms at Northampton and at Wellingborough the staff are generally quite suspecting of me.
There is a lack of respect for anything in the public sector. I guess this comes from our throw away society. The teenagers expect the stuff they break to be replaced.
And when you see delapidated trains with windows smashed and "David woz ere 99 luvin KM 4ever" it annoys me. Mostly because i know that the train won't be overhauled until a year later.

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:37 am

Astrovana wrote:I'm a teenager and although my gcses interfere with trains i still like them.

How does that work then ?

Surly GCSE's are held in school halls not on the WCML ?

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:30 am

Astrovana wrote:Now in order to get close enough to the west coast main line, i have to travel to Roade and Blisworth since i cannot get onto the platforms at Northampton and at Wellingborough the staff are generally quite suspecting of me.
There is a lack of respect for anything in the public sector. I guess this comes from our throw away society. The teenagers expect the stuff they break to be replaced.
And when you see delapidated trains with windows smashed and "David woz ere 99 luvin KM 4ever" it annoys me. Mostly because i know that the train won't be overhauled until a year later.

A year hmmm? It took about 10 for something to be done about the state of our Class 323s!

I don't spot, phot or anything else trains. I do however work on a preserved railway and express my interest on forums like these.