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Why were Crabs called Crabs???

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:34 pm
by Frellis
I have often wondered this on many occasions.

In the blurb you get from Bachmann with their model it says that the name was derived from the ungainly pincer-like cylinders and valvegear layout. It also says this in Brian Haresnape's Fowler Locomotives book.
But after extensive looks at photos etc. I can't see how this can be.

I think it was because the engines crews reckoned the machine to be so good that it could even go sideways. (but obviously didn't).

What do you think?

I'm interested to hear your theories.

Cheers

FRED

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:59 pm
by andrewtoplis
Possibly with such large outside cylinders they would have swayed from side to side when steam entered each cylinder...hence crabs?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:20 pm
by arabiandisco
Because they were no good for going forwards?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:35 pm
by alexnick
arabiandisco wrote:Because they were no good for going forwards?
or backwards?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:19 pm
by davvydo
because of the curved shape of the running boards

or because they were/are a bit tempremental and made the crew crabby !

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:11 am
by ianmacmillan
The name CRAB was unknown in central Scotland.

Railwaymen always called them Moguls.

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:00 am
by davidaward
Another explanation I've heard is that the safety valves are alongside each other rather than behind each other on the boiler- so they go sideways.

There's no dount about they were fantastic locos in the right hands though, they were more powerful with more guts to them than the stannier design which was a development of them, but with not as good riding qualities. The sheer power of the cylinders on the crab used to make them pitch from side to side when working flat out!

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:12 pm
by cua193
Apparently they were designed with almost horizontal cylinders & had to be re-designed when it dawned on someone that the cylinders wouldn't clear platforms.

The inclined cylinder reminded someone of a crab walking with its claws raised - hence the name.